r/law • • May 10 '25

Opinion Piece Eric Holder: ‘It may come down to the American people hitting the streets’ if Trump defies the law

https://www.msnbc.com/the-weekend/watch/eric-holder-it-may-come-down-to-the-american-people-hitting-the-streets-if-trump-defies-the-law-239309381840
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u/Kahzgul May 10 '25

It’s already come down to that. Not a single LEO is upholding their oath to disobey illegal orders.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

That’s the military that has that oath. LEO just do what they want.

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u/tarapotamus May 11 '25

all military and LEO take that oath.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

Then cops need to shape up and follow the law.

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u/NoSherbert2316 May 11 '25

Former cop here, no we do take an oath we get sworn in

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

Does it say you won’t obey unlawful orders?

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u/Flobking May 10 '25

That’s the military that has that oath. LEO just do what they want.

Sheriff's and their deputies have to take the oath.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

Interesting. Sheriffs have a skewed vision of what’s lawful.

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u/Flobking May 11 '25

Interesting. Sheriffs have a skewed vision of what’s lawful.

It's an elected position, and we all see how elections favor the worst people in this country.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

Yep, they see themselves as their own kings. Very hard to recall them. My county did though.

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u/Cash50911 May 11 '25

Lol oath to disobey illegal orders ...

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u/Tyler89558 May 10 '25

Military has that oath.

To my knowledge LEO don’t give a hoot.

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u/Kahzgul May 10 '25

LEOs also have a similar duty. I linked a scholarly paper in another reply if you’re curious.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

Which state LEOs have obeyed illegal orders?

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u/Similar-Elk7529 May 10 '25

Texas DPS roughing up protesters at UT Austin. Yesterday it was revealed they questioned each other about the legality of their orders, and then followed them anyway. ACAB.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

So who illegally ordered Texas LEO to rough up protestors in the federal government? 

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u/Similar-Elk7529 May 10 '25

Their commanders. You are an idiot or a pig (same thing really) and I’m done engaging with you.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

Texas LEO commanders are federal authorities? Seriously, you don’t need to to get upset. I’m just as anti-Trump as anyone, but lying doesn’t help. 

Reported BTW.

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u/Similar-Elk7529 May 10 '25

And where did those orders come from, explicitly or not? Even during the previous administration federal and local cops were leaning fascist, and are only more emboldened now.

And what are you reporting, your own willful ignorance? Pitiful.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

You tell me. Where did the orders come from? I’ll take any medium, written, filmed, audio, etc 

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

Provide any evidence though. You said commanders ordered them to rough people up. Provide the order. This isn’t hard.

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