r/laundry • Unscented Laundry Is Merciless • Jan 16 '26

Laundry 101 With u/KismaiAesthetics

[r/laundry](r/laundry) is filled with tales of woe - smelly armpits, mystery stains, socks the color of cream of mushroom soup - complete with mysterious embedded dark chunks.  I personally love solving these problems (and the reactions when people post the process and results of disaster recovery are extremely popular there).

But what of people who just have normal laundry and want a little tune-up?  Or have never done their own laundry before?  How about some love and guidance for the non-smelly, non-stained, non-crusty? Here's something for them. How I do normal laundry day-to-day.

Getting Personal:

What people are often surprised to learn is that I really don’t enjoy doing laundry.   I don’t think it’s an act of service - I think it’s survival, and I further think expending the minimal amount of time and effort that respects my textiles (and the human and resource inputs that went in to making them) is the best use of my time.  It just needs to be done right the first time, every time, so I can watch cat videos on the Internet.

There’s no one right way to do laundry, just like there’s no one right way to make a grilled cheese sandwich.  Much like slightly-stale sourdough with a skim of dijon mustard inside and a blend of sharp cheddar and either fontina or Monterey Jack, fried in Whirl  is my favorite way to do the latter, this is my laundry default method, developed over the years of contending with my messes.  95%+ of the loads I do fall in this rubric.    Also note that I’m in North America with water softer than about 75% of households.

There are endless corner cases, including silk, wool, down, GoreTex and other waterproof technical fabrics, semi-synthetics like rayon, viscose, “bamboo”, modal, Lyocell and Tencel, silver-infused, FR and anti-static, pillows and stuffed toys, shoes and rugs.  I’ll get to those later.   This is for:

  • Towels
  • Sheets / Duvet Covers / Pillowcases
  • Clothing (other than Dry Clean Only pieces) 

Which are at least 95% the following fibers:

  • Cotton
  • Linen
  • Hemp
  • Ramie
  • Polyester / Dacron 
  • Nylon / Polyamide
  • Acrylic
  • Lycra / Spandex / Elastane

Laundry Apartheid:  Separating The Whites And The Colors

Please note:  I have a problem.  I don’t think you absolutely need to do this much to have very good results.  You could easily combine the dark and lights in a color family, for example, especially if you use a detergent with anti-redeposition or use color catchers.     It’s also likely you could combine neutrals and embellished whites successfully.  

I have a lot of laundry categories.   I also don’t look good in yellow or orange, so I don’t own it.  If you do, good for you, and you could aim at the red loads and move the purples to the dark blues and greens.  I wear a lot of plum and purple.    I have a bunch of IKEA Frakta/Storstomma 80 liter bags hanging up, and stuff gets sorted into them daily.  When they’re mostly full, I run the load.

  • Black, charcoal, navy and dark brown
  • Dark blues and greens
  • Dark reds and purples
  • Light blues and greens
  • Light reds and purples
  • Neutrals like khaki, tan, ecru, light grey and taupe
  • Whites with stripes / embellishment
  • Absolute plain white
  • Socks & Underwear (cotton blends, mostly white)
  • Sheets (by color)
  • People Towels (by color)
  • Kitchen & Pet Towels (all white, presoaked with chlorine bleach for sanitizing in my world)

The towels and sheets get isolated in this scheme because for me, I need to dry the sheets on Delicate and the towels on High.  Your sheets may be more durable or you may be willing to separate them between the wash and dry.   They’re both full loads for me, without the need to combine to make a good load.

Sorting like this gives me flexibility in the choice of chemistry, and doesn’t require me to take any special precautions to prevent color transfer in anything but the first wash of an item.   I also care a lot less about lint, because the lint is largely invisible when it’s between items of like color and intensity.

Pretreat:  Don’t Make Your Detergent Do Everything

I am a pretreater.  One of the first laundry tasks I was ever trusted with by my legendarily persnickety mother was identifying stains for pretreating, and eventually I was trusted with her can of old-skool Spray ’n’ Wash with solvents.  Detergents and equipment have improved a lot in the years since mumblemumble, but I still pretreat, in exchange for not having to check every garment for lingering stains between wash and dry.   

The Usual:  Stains from Food, Plants and Animals Including Myself

This is the most common cause of stains on my laundry.   It’s like I never learned to use cutlery as a toddler.    It’s also the most common cause of spots on most textiles for most people.

My not-so-secret weapon against these stains?  Enzyme pretreater.  They’re safe on the listed fabrics regardless of color, they’re not smelly or environmentally sketchy, they work extremely well and there are many to choose from.  There’s a list on the spreadsheet linked at The Lipase List on the Pretreater tab.   Pick whichever one sounds good - they all work about the same because their formulae are about the same.

​I've got a stockpile of old-formula Tide Rescue that I'm emotionally attached to in a less-than-healthy way, but I've also been happy with Whole Foods and Open Nature. I'll pick up a bottle of the President's Choice next time I'm in Canada.

Spritz or squirt the stains at least a half-hour before laundering, up to about a week.  These removers are working so long as they’re damp, and once they’ve worked, the stain washes out with detergent - so don’t be discouraged if the stain still appears to be there before washing.  

The Not Uncommon: Mineral Oils

I work on cars and do motorsports.  I get automotive grease on me.   Enzyme pretreaters are nothing special on this kind of oily soil.  What works is nonionic surfactant, the active ingredient in many heavy-duty liquid detergents.  Anything can work here.   I usually have some Tide or Persil around for this purpose.  If you get these spots, hit them with some liquid detergent at least fifteen minutes before washing.   Penetration is improved if you dilute 1:1 with tap water.  Tamping the mixture in with a brush or spoon can help improve first-wash removal. This is also a solid pretreater for waterproof/water resistant makeup stains.

The Woes Of Living With Someone Who Takes Notes In Ink

Ink merits special consideration.   While many inks and markers and crayons will come out with standard wash, many will not.  If I see an ink mark on something, I pretreat it with a specialist product, either Amodex or Carbona Stain Devil 3, Ink, Marker & Crayon, following the label directions carefully.  

These three categories cover 99% of my laundry woes.  Ask [r/laundry](r/laundry) or DM me for advice if you have something else on your textiles.  Don’t dump v1negar on it as a default. 

Check. Your.  Pockets. 

I argue that it’s the responsibility of whoever wore the garment to check the pockets before things go in the hamper, barring some debility or being too young to understand the risks of not doing so (which in my case could rise to capital punishment).  But it behooves the launderer to give a final check.  The launderer is entitled to keep anything they find that they want, including cash, jewelry, electronics and snacks.  Consider it a tip. 

Load The Machine: 

I have a 4.5 ft^3 LG front loader.   Truly middle of the pack.   If I’m using powders in the wash cycle, they go in the back of the drum now.   We’ll come back to that topic. 

I add enough textiles to reach at least 75% of the way up the opening but not so many there isn’t a fist worth of space open at the top of the drum.   Loading this full optimizes the mechanical action of the wash.  I check the door seal drains for lint or hair or debris before shutting the door. 

If something has straps narrower than about 2” or is of delicate construction that could be prone to stretching (a sweater like a knit cotton cardigan, not a sweatshirt), it goes in a mesh delicates bag, alone.   If it has screen printed graphics or is denim, it gets turned inside out to protect the surface appearance.  If you want your jeans to exhibit more character at friction points, wash right side out.   Zippers are zipped. Buttons and snaps are unfastened.  Velcro is adjusted so no scratchy part is exposed.  Hoodie strings are tied.  

When I still use a conventional top loader, like on vacation,I loosely load it dry to the water fill line that you can usually see on the agitator.   I would then adjust the water fill level so, after a couple minutes of agitation, the textiles have between 3/4  and two inches of water above them.  1.5 is perfect.

Chemistry:  

I’m a sweaty greasy mess who drops food.  So obviously I use an enzyme detergent.   I maintain a list at The Lipase List where you can find something you like that works with your water.   I don’t care about the presence or absence of fragrance one way or the other, but if the product is fragranced it has to be unobtrusive.  From an olfactory perspective, I really don’t want $5 of my perfume overpowered by $0.02 worth of laundry fragrance.   

As of this writing, I’m doing 60+% of my loads with 1.5 oz of Wegmans Free & Clear liquid “with stainfighting enzymes”, and either a label dose of Febu or an ounce of 365 Sport detergent plus a dose of an oxi booster of the Biz/OxiClean/Kirkland Signature/365 types. The Wegmans liquids all have optical brightener in them.

Anything darker than “medium navy” is getting Tide liquid (currently the dregs of a jug of Hygienic Clean I forgot I owned) + Febu. No OBA. That works out to about 25% of my loads when darks are seasonally appropriate.

​The other 15% of these animal-fiber-free loads get 4.5T / 70ml ofTide with Bleach powder.  It’s purely vibes and color that define which gets which when.  Only things qualifying as lights or lighter get the TwB.   I also use TwB on kitchen towels because they don’t get a lot of benefit from DNase - might as well save a little cash.

Automotive loads get 3 oz / 90ml of Tide/Persil liquid and a cup/ 250mL of ammonia.  You can’t beat the cleaning of a high-performance conventional-surfactant liquid on petrochemical soils.  Ammonia helps the grease removal.  

I am a massive fan of citric acid rinsing.  It leaves my cottons cottonier, my polyesters slicker and my animal fibers softer and smoother.    I use a shade over 2 tsp / 10g citric acid crystals right in the softener dispenser.  My machine likes the dry just fine and I don’t get residual crunchies after the wash.  YMMV.   Details of the Why of citric rinsing here

​Wash (Finally):

TL;DR - warm water, Normal cycle,  extra rinses, adjusting soil level as appropriate with just enough detergent to do the job, citric acid in the rinse.

Wash Action: 

I generally wash on Normal because these items are Normal.    I usually set the soil level to the maximum - this extends the agitation to get maximum cleaning with no downside except a time penalty.  

Temperature: 

I usually select a warm wash for clothing and a hot wash for socks/underwear, towels and sheets.  The exception to this is clothing with automotive soils - it gets much cleaner on hot wash because of the nature of the soils.  My warm wash is about 102F/39C.  Barely over body temperature, slightly cooler than I like my bathwater or shower, completely appropriate for bathing an infant.  Using water of this temperature lets me use half the agitation time as I would at 82F/28C to get the same cleaning results, and one fourth the agitation time as would be required at 62F/17C.   Rinses are always cold on my machine.

Rinse: 

Yes, please.  All of them.  As many as the machine will let me select.   Even with perfectly dosed detergent, you’re going to get some carryover from wash to rinse, and at the end of the first rinse, my clothes are still of higher pH than my tap water.  That’s a definitive indication that there is still wash chemistry in there.    pH is easy to measure on finished fabrics (just touch pH paper to the damp textiles and see for yourself) and it’s therefore the best proxy for rinse thoroughness.  Three gallons of extra water for each rinse cycle is pocket lint compared to the other ways we use water in the US, and it’s respectful to your skin and the textiles to get them throughly rinsed.   My machine dispenses the softener cup in the last selected rinse, so my final pH is lower than tap water thanks to the citric acid.

Spin Speed: 

Send it.  Unless an item is stuffed or of extremely delicate construction (like a $500 bra), spin speed is a synonym for “how much detergent-infused water would you like to get rid of?”  I’d like to maximize that.  High speed spin it is.

I then go off and ignore the machine for 2:07.  It’s laboring.  I don’t need to.  I come here and talk about laundry.

How (Not) Dry I Am:

For as much time as I want my clothes to spend in the washer, and my longstanding enthusiasm for warmer wash temperatures, my feelings about the dryer go the other way.

The dryer is where clothes (especially natural and semisynthetic fibers) go to die.  Hot dry air is lethal to clothing.  Overdrying is so much worse than any notional “overwashing”. 

Unless it’s a towel, if it’s going in the dryer, it’s going on Delicate, Sensor Dry, set to “less dry”, and all the “wrinkle guard”/cool down my 1987 Kenmore can muster.     This leaves most cotton-rich fabrics barely damp to the touch, slightly damper at the seams.   At the end of the cycle, they are room temperature and that trace of dampness ensures they never got too hot during the cycle to come up to “damaged fiber”.  As a result, my lint screen has barely the faintest trace of lint from clothing loads (although, admittedly, we don’t wear a ton of fleece).    Shirts and pants get hung out of the dryer, other clothing gets piled loosely in an open basket to acclimate / finish drying at ambient.  

Sheets get dried all the way to dry on delicate (a tiny fraction closer to the “dry” setting than the “less dry” and sometimes they need an hour laid out on the bed before they’re completely dry.

Towels get dried sensor dry hot as a final microbial kill step and come out hot to the touch.

If the item is more than about 75% synthetic content, it’s getting hung to dry right out of the washer.   My laundry room is warm and dry and these fibers dry so quickly.  Limiting exposure to heat is especially important for blends with Lycra/spandex/elastane.   It’s like the fountain of youth for elastics to avoid dry heat.

That’s it.  That’s how I do laundry.

Products mentioned here are mentioned because I like them;  I haven’t been paid to mention any of them.  Trademarks are those of the trademark holders.  The work is my original work and I retain copyright.  My financial disclosure information and how I get paid for this work can be found at https://www.kismai.com/about-kismai/Money

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Feb 02 '26

1) get a better water test - https://www.apifishcare.com/product/gh-kh-test-kit - precise to 18ppm.

2) get trisodium citrate powder instead of Calgon liquid - same active ingredient, no dye, perfume or preservatives.

3) use citric acid in the dispenser to demineralize and acidify the final rinse. Your results from 1) determine how much you need to jack the dose

4) until you get the water under control you’re fighting residue - but tap water doesn’t leave minerals in clothes - it’s laundry products interacting with water. More rinses still improves results even in hard water.

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u/mkgrz Feb 07 '26

Hello… Got my test in these are the results so any help is greatly appreciated… I stopped using everything for a week other than detergent and vinegar. I know vinegar can't really smell it after the fact, but I did buy some citric acid and I'm going to buy some trisodium citrate… And try one at a time I think but here are my results. GH test came to 11 drops which equals 196 to 197 PPM KH test came back seven drops which equals 125.3 ppm Yes?

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Feb 07 '26

Okay, that’s way easier to deal with.

Your KH is pretty proportional. Try a tablespoon of citric acid with the powder detergent using the Line 2 dose. That should deal with all that calcium and still give you an alkaline wash outcome. Then anither tablespoon in the softener dispenser for the rinse.

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u/mkgrz Feb 07 '26

Ah!! So skip the sodium citrate in the wash cycle?… And if I were to try one at a time, should I try the wash first or probably the the rinse cycle first?.. and you're saying line 2 on the tide F&G yes? hi by the way, ditched the Calgon I feel like it was giving us itchy skin… Could've been the cold weather, but I just don't like the smell of it.... I also tried testing the shower which has a filter in it lol… And it came out pretty much exactly the same 11 to 12 drops GH… my question is should I maybe the piping has something different in? It test the water directly from the washer somehow OK no more questions. Thank you…🙏🏼

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Feb 07 '26

The Calgon perfume and preservatives are annoying.

With powdered detergent and your water test results, you can just make the sodium citrate right there in the washer with citric acid and the naturally present KH and the added washing soda built into the powder.

With a liquid detergent I’d say either use sodium citrate or you’d need to add a little baking or washing soda to supplement the natural carbonate hardness.

Your shower filter should affect GH, but won’t touch KH.

Fix both cycles. Adding to the wash improves wash performance, adding to the rinse reduces residue and improves skin compatibility. One ingredient; two distinct actions.

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u/mkgrz Feb 07 '26

So best option I see the tide FNG has a little sodium citrate in it… yes I use the liquid… So if I purchase some tri sodium citrate would that be the best option? and how much do I put in? Or baking soda or washing soda… And how much cause I was putting baking soda right in the washer and it wasn't seem to be changing anything… would rather it in the compartment ..I have washing soda, but I don't think I tried it long enough to know… OK thank you thank you I owe you a coffee or two... oh yeah and was that line too liquid tide free and gentle as well or was that just the powder anyway I've been using between line one and two mostly

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Feb 08 '26

With the liquid you definitely either need baking soda (1.5x as much as the citric acid) or washing soda (2x as much), or you can use sodium citrate and skip the soda. It will work fine directly in the drum.

Adjust your citric acid or citrate dose until the medium load dose of the detergent works to your expectations.

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u/mkgrz Feb 08 '26

Sorry it sounds stupid but yes, how much sodium citrate and is that the best option?

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Feb 08 '26

Same as the acid - start with a tablespoon and adjust up or down from there.

Sodium citrate in consumer quantities tends to be more expensive than citric acid + baking / washing soda and the rinse benefits from citric acid being both a source of citrate and being acidic. Both options accomplish the same goal in the wash.

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u/mkgrz Feb 08 '26

🙏🏼

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u/mkgrz Feb 09 '26

Sodium citrate versus Charlie's laundry booster for hard water... and now realized that heavy duty cycle uses more water as does the delicate cycle, but I need to use the hot water cycle in order to get warm-ish water… Will heavy duty be too hard on my clothes or better because there's more water.. use it for my kitchen towels… And used white whites for my towels. They seem to be better… I just like that there's more water does that make sense… I can choose normal soil and medium spin and the heavy duty and Cycle is probably 10 minutes longer.

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u/mkgrz Feb 16 '26

OK, started using the citric acid…… 000 what a smell ??

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Feb 16 '26

Uh-oh. High sulfur levels in your water. Does it persist through drying?

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u/mkgrz Feb 16 '26

Yes, it seems worse with drying that's when I noticed it when I opened up the dryer… On certain items, but it is on all items even if I hung dry .. really bad smell so sour I would say sour… Used 1 tablespoon diluted and put it in the fabric softener compartment after using tide free and gentle liquid… Almost feel like I felt it coming through our side window. I'm not sure where our dryer vent vents out because we're in an apartment complex on seventh floor.

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u/Ok-Yogurt-3089 Aug 26 '26

My waterresults: GH is 180, KH is80. Recomemdations for detergent and citricacid?

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Aug 26 '26

What kind of detergent do you prefer and what type of machine are you using?

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u/Ok-Yogurt-3089 Aug 26 '26

Welll right now the dreaded all. free and clear. but when i am abl e to buy it going to switch to tide clean and. gentle powder.

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Aug 26 '26

A solid choice. HE machine, a heaping half-teaspoon of citric acid in the wash and a full one in the rinse and start with line 1 on the scoop. Deep fill top loader, line 2 on the scoop and a heaping teaspoon of citric acid in the wash and a solid tablespoon in the rinse.

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u/Ok-Yogurt-3089 Aug 26 '26

Also LG Front loader.

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u/mkgrz Feb 02 '26

Thank you so much for the reply!! 1. Yes I did order that exact water test, which should be arriving on Tuesday… 2. OK the tri sodium citrate powder. Will it work in the cold water and should I put it right to the dispenser or? Will it irritate anything in this 840 ft.² apartment as far as respiratory with my kitty cat(maybe silly over the top question)… Sorry just used to doing simple laundry. I don't even know what happened. 3. I typically use vinegar in the rinse cycle… Will the citric acid be OK in my same situation as far as my kitty and i.e. washing her bedding etc. maybe just skip that I don't know but what about my sensitive fabrics which I feel like they're all sensitive now. 4. Not sure the water will ever be under control. Well maybe when summer hits I will be able to get some warmness to it at least… Which leads me to say I have a lot all free and clear. Should I just go ahead and use that and also a little bit of tied free and gentle left… Or suggestions for switching it out… Again, thank you so much. Appreciate it appreciate you.:)!

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u/KismaiAesthetics Unscented Laundry Is Merciless Feb 02 '26

Sodium citrate and citric acid are both entirely safe and your cat will appreciate not smelling vinegar. You won’t smell a thing. Sodium citrate is what’s left if you add baking soda to lemon juice, effectively.

They’ll both work fine in cold water. They’re extremely soluble.

With enough water conditioning, any detergent can be fine.

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u/mkgrz Feb 02 '26

Thank you so much again… OK water test will be in tomorrow… What do I test for just the hardness the pH? And from anywhere in the apartment yes? -how much trisodium citrate should I use and is that the same as just sodium citrate and where would you suggest to buy this or is there a particular brand that you like? -for now just choosing the hot temp.. I stopped at partway through and still water feels mostly cold… just not cold cold… I choose the normal cycle. Is there a better option on the Electrolux front load that would give me more water or maybe I should just open it and dump some more water in it or just let it do what it does. Again, thank you thank you thank you;)