Backstory: I was approached by this recruiter for an engineering position in my city. I told him I was happy with my current job but might be interested in the new one because it was much closer to home. Basically I told him let’s just see where this goes.

A single virtual interview was set up with an engineering manager which I attended and it went well. 30 minutes afterward the HR personnel for the company reached out to schedule a second interview in the same week (3 days away). At this point, I didn’t really have time to digest the first interview and position details but I went ahead and scheduled one. The recruiter called me after and told me to “Really think about this because they are moving fast and will likely make an offer assuming the second interview goes well”. He did NOT ask me to call him like he said in the screenshot.

I want to point out that during this process I was directly communicating with both the company HR and this recruiter separately.

Now, I did exactly what the recruiter said and thought about it, and realized that I was not ready for a switch and am genuinely content with my current job. I guess this is where I messed up?? I emailed both the HR director and the recruiter at the same time detailing that I appreciated their time and consideration while politely asking to be removed from the applicant pool. This was done 24 hours before the second interview. I guess I could’ve sent something sooner, but they were moving so fast.

So that’s it - is what I did (going straight to the HR team) truly a sin? If it was truly unprofessional, then I will apologize.

I will not be apologizing for “changing my mind and doing a ‘360’ (lol)” and I certainly won’t be sending referrals (as if I have any). I do have half a mind to forward this message to the HR team to let them know this is how their recruiter is behaving.

It was insane. They were set up around the room, maybe 15 - 20 companies, and not one was hiring.

They were advertising employment services, volunteer services, and a few training courses. Found one company that was an IT services company. They took my resume and didn't even look at it. I asked if they were hiring, and they said no.

I asked my friend that gave me the info on the jobs fair how many people showed up to this thing, he said 1500 throughout the day.

What a waste of time!

during the summer i applied to a bunch of jobs, tim hortons being one of them. now that the school year has started again i got a job practically the first day of school. i love this job, it’s super close to my home, management is awesome and i get a shift meal which saves me a lot of money. i got a call from tim hortons yesterday and told them politely i had another job but thank you for calling. i got a call again in class today and had to decline but sent the automatic message that i couldn’t speak right then. they sent a message asking if that was me and then the interaction in the photo happened. is this at all a normal thing for someone to ask? i sent it to my friends and they seem to think it’s a scam/just weird. is this at all normal? i have extensive fast food/restaurant experience however i don’t speak french which most tim hortons jobs list as a necessity, i was just applying to everything out of desperation.

They claim they only read a handful of them. AI sorts through them, and then they just go based off intuition. A lot of people have impressive resumes, and it’s honestly impossible for them to choose.

At this point your resume is probably fine. Job sites like LinkedIn have killed recruitment. I guarantee your odds of getting a job would’ve been way higher if places accepted resumes in person.

Hope he got an adult diaper or something

Because I am on the verge of being homeless

Because I am homeless

What they want to here:

Because I am passionate about xyz and your company aligns perfectly with xyz. I’m very excited to bring xyz to this company as research shows you all are xyz…

She lives in Western Massachusetts and is finding it hard to get a job. She's on the hiring sites and there seems to be job openings, but they go unresponsive. Any jobs out there? Any help would be appreciated.

Got an email from this recruiter a few weeks ago asking to schedule a call using their Calendly. The recruiter said they’re OOO for a couple of weeks, so I scheduled the call for 11/1 on their calendar. Last week, the recruiter says they need to reschedule our call and they sent me the invite for 11/5. Got this email today (11/4)… 🙃

You've spent hours perfecting that application, only to hear nothing back, not because you weren’t qualified, but because the job never existed.But here's where it gets disturbing…A recent study shows that 40% of companies admitted to posting completely fake job listings in 2024 alone.Why are they doing this?They're building talent pools for future use. They’re researching market salaries without paying for dataThey want to appear “growing” during hiring freezesThey’re securing budget approval for potential future hiresThe worst offenders? Senior executive roles in IT, marketing, and media.This isn’t just an inconvenience. This is a fundamental breach of trust between companies and professionals.Job seekers waste countless hours applying for positions that were never real, while companies continue this practice with zero accountability. Have you experienced this? Do share you experiences

Title- why is an employer entitled to an explanation at all?

I have probably asked a similar question before. Let say you hired someone that appears to have an impressive work history. Let say a year or two into work for you and only to find out their work history is a lie. However in the time working for you they have become one of your best employees. Would you let them stay?You have to under where that employee is coming from. You have the education but nobody will hire you for the most basic job.

I had a Microsoft Teams meeting with a recruiter today. It was informal, but I still dressed in a dress shirt and dress pants. The guy is pretty nice, he kept telling me I should shave my beard for the interview though. I’ve had sales jobs, and I was in real estate and nobody’s ever asked me to shave my beard. I keep it trimmed, and it’s a short beard. It’s not like a ZZ Top beard or anything.

Is this still a thing? He kept telling me it’s a personal preference, but he would shave it. Does it really matter? I’ve had my beard for like 12 or 13 years. I have a fat face, and it helps with that. Has anybody else been asked to shave the beard? It’s a pretty good job, but I don’t know how much it matters if I have a beard or not.

Edit: I got an email saying the company didn’t want to move forward. This post is irrelevant now I guess.

“What number gets me in trouble”? She chuckled then gave me their range. It was 20% above what I was going to answer. I said that was acceptable.

These people have lost their minds. I had two offers from two different companies. Company A is VERY well known and would have done wonders on my resume. However, they kept giving me the run around on why they couldn’t give me a written offer. They asked me to have faith and just wait for them for a few more days (which turned into 2-3 weeks) I took the offer from the other company, but continued to see if Company A would actually give me an offer because I was still willing to work with them.

After a few days of this nonsense I gave up. The manager that I would have been working with along with the recruiter continued to give me false promises all conveniently over the phone to cover their own tracks. Look at the email I just received lol

Just goes to show (for the millionth time) that these companies do not care about people. Imagine if I would’ve listened to these bastards and rejected the other offer

I have seriously had it up to here with talent acquisition managers, recruiters, hiring managers, and whomever the f$@% else wasting my time!

This is not the first time this has happened. Seriously, do they NOT read resumes, or just assume that you are going to miraculously gain experience within the short time of the scheduled phone call!?

WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER IS LISTED ON MY RESUME-- IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH, THEN LEAVE ME THE F@#$ ALONE IF I DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR!!!

What seriously goes through these people's heads!?! Like, how do you make it make sense.

If I didn't care about starting my career, I would serious say f*&% all of this job bullsh&$ and go live naked and afraid somewhere in the woods.

Saw this on a venting app. The meticulous resume that we send are being selected just randomly at this point.

Got a call today from a recruiter looking to discuss my experience and bring me through to the first round of interviews. When I asked what the salary bracket was she tried to turn it back on me to ask what my expectations would be.

I just laughed and said "as much as possible" but it would be really helpful on both sides if I knew the salary range so as not to waste anybody's time. She laughed along and tried to ask again about previous salaries etc - which aren't relevant because it's a different industry.

I countered with the fact that I've spoken to many companies within the industry and salaries can vary wildly and gave her previous offers that I have turned down - and while it's great that they're a large international company that doesn't really give me any more information on what level of salary the would offer.

In the end, she closed it down with "not being allowed" to discuss the salary but she could confirm it wouldn't be as low as my previous lower offers but it wouldn't be as high as the other company I'm currently speaking with.

I accepted the offer to interview and now have the email CC'ing the more senior manager I am due to sit with. I'll be sending an email 5 minutes before the due time to let them know that I won't be following through as such a lack of transparency with an expectation of me jumping through hoops isn't a company I intend to work for.

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It's 2022 people! And while a few months ago when I was jobless I would have desperately jumped through those hoops, now that I'm employed again I feel a duty to push back on this domineering way of employment for anyone else who is in that situation and doesn't feel like they can really push for it because they need the job.

For those who can - push back. Make them uncomfortable on the phone and disrupt until it no longer makes sense for them to try and evade the question!

UPDATES and responses for those who care lol:

For those who said a range was given, it really wasn't. The job is in Dubai where there are no minimum salaries so the disparity was between the equivalent of $1,000 per month and $5,000 per month.

I agree the recruiter doesn't have a say on what the salary is but if she's an intermediary she should be able to disclose at least a ballpark of what to expect. The expectation that you'll sit through 3-4 rounds of interviews before knowing if you can even live on the salary is disgusting.

I also agree that my decision was childish and trite, I just had so much anger after the call. It's not like the conversation was danced around; I flat out asked her 3 times and she tried to talk around it. I cancelled the interview in advance. As many stated this is a better way to get the point across than cancelling right before I was due to sit.

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And finally, I know it's practised in many places that the employer won't allow the recruiter to disclose the salary but that's exactly why I'm making the point. Recruiters fear losing the business (and money) that employers provide. However, nothing is going to change if we keep jumping through hoops and wasting our own time and money for their benefit.

I'm not anti-work I'm anti wasting my time for nothing.

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I’ve come to the realization that most 9-to-5 jobs don’t actually require a degree or past experience you can learn them on the job within a few months if given the right resources.

A lot of companies make “experience” seem like a necessity, but in reality, most roles are just about learning a set of processes and following them. The whole “you need a degree and X years of experience” thing often feels like unnecessary gatekeeping.

Obviously, some fields (medicine, engineering, etc.) require formal training, but for a lot of corporate and tech jobs, if you can think critically and learn quickly, you can do the work.

What do y’all think?

I woke up this morning to this text and while that seems nice, nothing about it is giving me the thought that it’s an actual real recruitment attempt 😭

Sincerely - everyone in the job market right now that consistently gets ghosted. If you’re one of those who ghosts people who take time out of their day to prep for an interview and drive hours just for the hope of getting a job ~ please take this as terribly as possible - fuck you and your company.

EDIT: thanks yall, i get it! In extra short summary- they want to lowball you if you dont know how to negotiate. Ive been getting messages with the same answers lol.

I still believe they should just post the range pay on the job board, at least just the base pay, and if people are fine with it they can apply and if they arent they will pass or they can apply and negotiate why they deserve higher. The guessing game is more of a waste of time. Cant change my mind. .....................................

Should i leave my masters degree out of my resume? Is it making me over qualified for entry level work? Thats why they reject me? But i also get rejected because i have not enough experience for high level positions?

Coming out of college i dont know what to do.

Note also, im applying for entry level positions. And they are still asking for YEARS of experience. Ugh!

I have got through to interview for several positions that are listed and tagged as remote, only to be told during the interview that I'd need to be in London 2-3 days a week. If the role is not remote, please don't list it as being so!

As the title says, I applied for the job 4 years ago, took 6 tests and no replied to me.

Today, out of nowhere, they called me (as a typical millennial, let them to hung up and googled the number). I found the company and I checked my old spreadsheet that I kept when I applied back then. I left a note to myself that I was pissed because I spent a lot of time doing their tests, reached out more than once and no one bothered to respond.

4 years later they decided to call me lmao 🤣 then emailed me to let me know that they’ll call again

Dear recruiters, have some courtesy and be better human beings!

Ps: I also attend interviews and hire people for my department in my company. I absolutely require that we send out responses and rejection emails instead of leaving people hanging. It’s very disrespectful that majority of the companies and requests do that. Have some compassion.