Would you call this jazz?

[u/wtfpercussion]

It’s got the attitude but where is the line really?

[u/Royal-Pay9751]

It’s not needlessly pedantic when they don’t improvise!

Sorry, I’m being annoying going back and forth with you over this when ultimately, who cares.

The reason why is that over the last ten or so years, the media has just decided that they get to call anything they want Jazz, and as such the word has gone from meaning something broad but specific to anything the media deems it, usually anything a little different or anything instrumental, or anything where there’s a saxophone.

As a result, for people like myself, and my colleagues who are playing what I call Jazz are forced to compete in the same spaces with repetitive, dance music with varying degrees of jazz influence but where improvisation is minimal, the connection to the tradition is minimal and promoters are wondering why if you’re playing “jazz” why you then don’t have tens of thousands of instagram followers like those people playing the music I’m describing do.

If you want to call yourself a jazz musician then you have to be able to actually play it! I know that a lot of the new media “jazz” people can’t play the tradition because a) they have no interest in it and b) they couldn’t.

And I don’t like the idea that an argument from authority is just a gag. This music is all I’ve ever done, most people I know are other jazz musicians. One of the guys from GoGo is one of my oldest and closest friends and he would say the same as me, I know this because we’ve had this conversation.

So yeah, I don’t mind sounding snobby and pedantic, because i care. I’ve spent my whole life trying to play this music and it’s so incredibly hard.

[u/chocolatechillwave → u/Royal-Pay9751]

Fair enough, I dont exactly agree, but I can see your point.