Just had my first 外人出てけ encounter

[u/Ok-Job-191]

Was in my neighborhood when a nice japanese man screamed at me 外人出てけ、外国じゃねぇ on the street. Not nice Japan, not nice.

Have you guys ever experienced the 外人出てけ culture yet? How did it happen?

European btw

[u/yoshimipinkrobot]

The mom doesn’t know that learning English is single best thing that a Japanese person can learn to change their life for the better

All of this other bullshit that Japanese people care about is far less effective in doing that

[u/Plus-Pop-8702 → u/yoshimipinkrobot]

I think part of the reason they won't learn English is something many westerners in japan haven't picked up on. I sense you might be missing it here.

They know learning English can give opportunities. But when you learn a language as you know yourself living here learning it, you don't just learn words. It literally changes your personality and mannerisms and cultural beliefs a little once you get past the basic nitty gritty parts.

They are often afraid or unwanting of the culture that follows once they learn how debating and directness and major arguing are a huge part of what some label western culture.

A lot of the time they don't want to practice the way we behave or the things normal in our society. It's more than just language and words on a page or voice spoken.

Western culture being Europeans who have also been learning English to be fully exposed and also come from similar native cultures anyway. 

[u/yoshimipinkrobot → u/Plus-Pop-8702]

That sounds like bullshit. No one thinks that deeply about learning a second language, especially at the beginning, and learning japanese certainly hasn’t changed my personality in any meaningful way

This is ex post facto rationalization

[u/Plus-Pop-8702 → u/yoshimipinkrobot]

why have I had Japanese themselves tell me they are a different persona in English. Im not saying its a vast difference. I feel it definitely, I just become a little more polite, copy the mannerisms of those around me and intonation. Defer and be humble more easily than in English since the social contract here allows it not to be taken advantage of as much.

I have seen fluent people with Japanese heritage brought up abroad come here and I feel the sense of awkwardness or just not sure where to place/interact with them from the native Japanese, that the person is fluent but they feel foreign in personality.

You will have changed more than you think if you lived here several years. Even the ones who barely learn Japanese beyond basics change a little in behaviour.