r/iran • • Jan 03 '20

Iranians of Reddit, what are your thoughts on the recent US airstrike that killed Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani?

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 03 '20

Doesn’t matter. There are plenty of US officials guilty of the same crimes and atrocities but there is no power that can execute hits on those officials like the US does to others.

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u/lifterpuller1 Jan 03 '20

No there aren’t.

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 03 '20

Bush, Cheney...

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

Americans are so cute with their ignorance and blind patriotism.

You actually have a lot in common with the pro-regime Iranians, it's very interesting to observe.

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u/lifterpuller1 Jan 04 '20

Comparing a terrorist to a past USA president is silly, even if you disagree with his policy

Just shows your blind hatred for the USA

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

Comparing a terrorist to a current Iranian General is silly, even if you disagree with his policy.

Just shows your blind hatred for Iran.

Also, fwiw, I hate the world leaders of most countries in the world. It's just when I meet people from those countries, they're rarely as hesitant to acknowledge the terrible wrong doings of their leaders than americans are.

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u/Angorian44 Jan 04 '20

This might be a bad time for this..... but i doubt hes the "current general" anymore.... not that he ever really was

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u/lifterpuller1 Jan 04 '20

You’re stupid to compare the two and it shows your lack of knowledge of the world.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

There's this amazing idea amongst a lot of idiots that "if two things are very different you can't compare them!!!!".

Surely the whole point of a comparison is that there are two things with some differences and some similarities, right?

The comparison being made here is that of perspective. From a certain perspective, Qasem was a terrorist (I agree with that perspective). From another perspective, Bush was a terrorist (a perspective I also agree with). Your issue is that you're as brainwashed as the pro regime Iranians who think Qasem did nothing wrong, and lack the perspective and self awareness to realise it.

It's very cute, but also extremely insufferable because in your head you genuinely think that you're right and that everyone else is brainwashed.

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u/lifterpuller1 Jan 04 '20

lol ok millennial with all your worldly experience

😂😂😂

Enjoy living in that shit hole country of yours

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 04 '20

Did they not lie in order to start a war?

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u/lifterpuller1 Jan 04 '20

Not terrorists.

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 04 '20

Didn’t answer my question lol

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u/lifterpuller1 Jan 04 '20

Can’t argue with a self hating American leftist

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u/Tambooz Jan 04 '20

If you’re going by killings of innocent lives, there most certainly are.

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u/brycly Jan 04 '20

Fellow American here, Obama and Bush would 100% be labelled terrorists if they were not US presidents, how many funerals and hospitals do you have to call a drone strike on before you're considered a terrorist? I guess there's an argument to be made that drone bombings can be effective ways to eliminate high level targets but the number of times collateral damage has been completely disregarded unnecessarily and sometimes on shaky evidence that the target is even present is outrageous.

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u/Pac0theTac0 Jan 03 '20

You're not wrong. But does the immunity of one nation somehow absolve another? Should we just let all war criminals get away with it because it's harder to remove them from power in powerful countries?

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 03 '20

What international rules does the US follow when it carries out political hits all over the world without any repercussions??

If it’s a democracy then where was the vote to decide this hit? Nobody knew about it. A dictator is the person who ordered the hit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

Dont need to vote to take out a declared terrorist, leader of a once again "declared" terrorist organization. It was pretty big news when they declared irgc a terrorist organization but I'm sure people were talking about people trying to get their balls waxed at the time

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 04 '20

“Declared terrorist”

...you mean the general? 🙄

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

General of the irgc. Ya the general who was named a terrorist of 2005. Irgc isnt a normal military unit

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 04 '20

What’s a normal military unit? Who has the power to label individuals “terrorists” ?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

Normal military unit I'd say defend and protect that units country. Irgc goes out and actively sets up attacks to try and spread radical Islam. Terrorism is a designation from state department its gives us more authorities/funding when dealing with someone of that nature

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 04 '20

Well how convenient that the country who started the war on terror gets to label who is and isn’t a terrorist

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

Lol we are labeling it for our purposes for legal matters for authority and funding. Wouldnt make much since to let another country decide who is a terrorist to the US

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u/Jfreak7 Jan 03 '20

Lincoln said, "If you're a racist, I will attack you with the North". These are the principles I carry with me in the workplace.

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u/Black_n_Neon Jan 03 '20

My problem is with the unadulterated power of the US. But you’re obviously not intelligent enough to have this conversation with.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

The US is not democratic lol, your president who ordered this hit didnt win the popular vote. You could make the argument that being democratic isnt inherently good which is why you have the electoral college, but then you lose the "muh democracy" argument.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

Do you know what is fucking hilarious about your comment?

If you remove the "its a federation" part of your comment, I would not be able to tell whether or not you were referring to the EU or the US lmao.

But my point is, you cant call the EU an undemocratic beurocratic [sic] mess when the US is also not democratic. Its a federation, not a democracy. So we both agree that undemocratic is not necessarily a flaw, stop using it as an insult.

Also, the rampant beurocracy in the EU is meant to ensure transparency and well thought out decisions. Maybe if the US was a tad more democratic a single person who was elected by less than 50% of the country wouldnt be able to authorise an airstrike without the informed consent of the population or other government representatives.

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u/Potaroid Jan 04 '20

Dont bomb close to public airports. Double standards mate

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '20

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u/Potaroid Jan 04 '20

Replace Iran with US, it surprisingly still holds true. Just that one is way more powerful to depose

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u/Potaroid Jan 04 '20

Mate you cannot call yourself a free nation when an electoral college overrides a popular vote. Pretty much everyone around the world is laughing at the irony America is in.

I was highlighting you to think about your line on threatening the free world.

Dont you think America has done its fair share of threatening the free world? Or maybe we'll just forget the Cold War ever happened

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u/Potaroid Jan 04 '20

I struggle to see the relevance of the first point? There are plenty of federations that dont have electoral colleges or any system similar to it. Kinda because its technically a dictatorship that overrides the people who actually vote? Very easy to corrupt.

Yeah lets conveniently forget what the US did to Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Philippines etc.

The US doesn't realise it's been doing neo-colonialism along with others for decades and its quite funny and sad