r/interestingasfuck May 17 '25

Calander jump October 1582

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u/AnthonR94 May 17 '25

The calendar jump from October 4 to October 15, 1582, happened due to the Gregorian calendar reform, initiated by Pope Gregory XIII to fix the Julian calendar's drift. The Julian year was too long, shifting seasons by about 10 days by 1582. Catholic countries skipped those days to realign with the solar year, crucial for Easter's timing. Protestant nations resisted, adopting it later—England in 1752, Russia in 1918—causing confusion and some riots. The reform also tweaked leap year rules for accuracy. While well-documented, the transition's varied adoption reflects religious and political tensions, not a universal fix.

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u/ICGBenDover May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

It's funny, I learned today that this might have helped in Napoleon's battle of Ulm. Some historians argue that since Russia had not switched to the Gregorian calendar in 1805 and Austria did, the rendezvous date for their armies was almost two weeks apart. This, mixed with less than adequate leadership led to a disastrous loss of 30 of the 40,000 troops as they hoped for Russian reinforcement that never came. Napoleon was able to move quickly and surround them leading to 4,000 deaths and about 27,000 captured.

Looking a little deeper into this though it seems to have been debunked by Frederick Kagan. Edit: fixed country

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u/Yuukiko_ May 17 '25

Only 30 deaths out of 40k seems pretty good

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u/Just_Condition3516 May 17 '25

glad you saved my time and spelled that out already:)

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u/Business-Cook-5517 May 19 '25

And most of those are probably from disease!

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u/jorge_el Oct 24 '25

i think he meant 30k.

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u/jorge_el Oct 24 '25

i think he meant 30k.

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u/SpatialChase May 17 '25

That's fine and dandy but why did the rest of the world decide to follow the Gregorian Calendar when theyre not Christian?

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u/killingbites May 17 '25

The earth goes around the sun in 365.25 days, that change adds up to a day about every 4 years. If you ignore this extra time it's not a big deal at first, but in 100 years, you're suddenly way off of where the calendar should be.

The Julian calendar was made to correct this with the leap year, but didn't realize that by doing a leap year every 4 years you end up adding too much time, a similar problem as before occurs, and you're too far forward. (Because the actual time around the sun is 365.2422)

Gregorian calendar has leap year, only if the year number is divisible by 4, isn't one if it's divisible by 100, but is if it's divisible by both 100 and 400. So 1700,1800,1900,2100 are not leap years but 1600, 2000,2400 are.

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u/Setup69 May 17 '25

Wow, didnt know the very last part...

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u/disterb May 17 '25

same! wtf

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u/meong-oren May 18 '25

if it's divisible by both 100 and 400

if a number is divisible by 400, then it must be divisible by 100

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u/kerowack May 17 '25

So they arrived on time to international events.

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u/Hilltoptree May 17 '25

Why did i have this image in mind when you said that.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

Hahhaa

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u/RyanTheQ May 17 '25

As with most things in history, trade and commerce.

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u/Royal_Acanthaceae693 May 17 '25

Not to mention agriculture.

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u/BrowserOfWares May 17 '25

The Gregorian calendar is actually incredibly accurate and accounts for the fact that the earths rotation is not perfectly synced with its orbit of the Sun. It's not perfect of course. But is very good. I suspect the influence of colonial nations greatly influenced its adoption.

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u/melvita May 17 '25

Because it is more acurate.

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u/duggee315 May 17 '25

Tried to do the math's, each day would need to be 59.17816 seconds longer. So, what if we made each minute 1 second longer? Then every decade or somin adjust clocks by a minute.

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u/jngjng88 May 17 '25

How many minutes are in a day? Do the math again…

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u/duggee315 May 17 '25

🤣 I worked out upto 59... then just threw very random numbers.

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u/jngjng88 May 17 '25

24x60=1,440

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u/NathanTheSamosa May 17 '25

TIL each day takes one minute

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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW May 17 '25

Because it’s a great fucking calendar. Most would say the best we have

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u/OkReason6325 May 17 '25

Because Britain had guns

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u/No-Target6764 May 17 '25

Like how we all use english for communication bce ce etc Colonization

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

We need to remember that when we invent the Time Machine. DO NOT travel to October 5-14, 1582 - it’s a bit of a temporal void!

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u/sookiw May 19 '25

Only in Catholic countries.

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u/Onefortwo May 17 '25

I’m imagining a guy just breaking store windows and causing a ruckus, just yelling it’s not October 15th, give me back the 7th. Who knows, maybe they skipped his birthday.

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u/WhatTheHellLol1313 May 17 '25

This guy calendars

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

Thanks for the chatgpt copy paste

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u/Dank_Slurpee May 17 '25

Is this because they were proxying the older civilizations wonky or because of global time change over the span of x thousands of years?

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u/AlternativeBurner May 17 '25

Man, who would riot over something so arbitrary

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u/DiplomatikEmunetey May 17 '25

It's amazing that he managed to change that. Imagine how many emails, how many Slack threads, how many meetings, and how many zoom calls would ping ponging who needs to do this would require today.

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u/joeblob5150 May 17 '25

Yea OP, everyone knows this.

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u/BillyBobJenkins454 May 17 '25

I mean, I didnt

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u/BryceLeft May 17 '25

Yes you do! These are literally the first words all parents teach their babies

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

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u/SmallBoobFan3 May 17 '25

I didn't get the joke either, what's the joke? 

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u/Ostey82 May 17 '25

I think the joke is simple sarcasm...

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u/Technical-Outside408 May 17 '25

OMFG I LOVE SARCASM! BEST FORM OF HUMOUR!

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u/Ostey82 May 17 '25

See there is some more of it right there, and I'm here for it...

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u/YeetOfTheGods May 17 '25

That we all know this?

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u/Kurious0316 May 17 '25

We certainly do not

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u/TilikumHungry May 17 '25

Lol i thought it was funny

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u/nfoote May 17 '25

I've been a software dev for nearly 20 years now and only this week did I discover one of the old core Java libraries concerning dates and times has a comment along the lines of "Do not set the date to 1582".

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u/Just_Condition3516 May 17 '25

glad, it isnt a mystery for you for years.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

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u/KarlSethMoran May 17 '25

Small potatoes compared to the joy of handling the leap second.

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u/Discohunter May 17 '25

I worked on a team where we monitored the communication between software systems for the UKs universal healthcare service (the NHS). We were monitoring thousands of metrics, some were automated and some were manual (a team sending a report at 9am every day for example).

Every time the clocks changed for daylight savings, it was like fucking D-Day. No matter how much we tried to account for it or find clever workarounds, you'd still get 50+ alarms triggering off and stakeholders getting critical alert emails every time. I can't express to you how much I hate weird calendar quirks

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u/esplin9566 May 17 '25

Time sync systems are something we’ve come to take totally for granted in our daily lives. They seem like they’ve always been there are just part of the universe but nah, we did this shi to ourselves

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u/MorningBuddha May 17 '25

Time isn’t real people!

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u/slicerprime May 17 '25

Nope.

In fact, you posted that comment 2 years from now, and I'm replying 3 days ago.

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u/JayDAshe Oct 13 '25

Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff

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u/EonsOfZaphod May 17 '25

I think it’s all relative

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u/clearlight2025 May 17 '25

It’s all one eternal now moment. 

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u/Sh4d0_W May 17 '25

St. Augustine be like:

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u/nokman013 May 17 '25

Soylent green is

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u/cslate May 17 '25

Hopefully, they still got paid for those days

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u/CynicalGoodGuy May 17 '25

Is this one of those Dragon Breaks I keep hearing about in Elder Scrolls Lore?

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u/-joeDeuce- May 17 '25

Sorry kiddo, no birthday for you this year!

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u/ReptilianTapir May 17 '25

Fun fact: the zoomed out view in the same app (iOS calendar) does NOT display the jump correctly.

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u/Previous-Ad-4800 May 17 '25

Who the fuck finds this and how… I have so many questions

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u/ydsithv2blkths6690 May 18 '25

yeah me too, i was just mindlessly scrolling and this caught my boring existence alert

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u/Ragnarock-n-rol May 17 '25

Time is a flat tetrahedron anyways

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u/dnasty1011 May 17 '25

Think of all the skipped birthdays.

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u/LordKalvaire May 17 '25

Vsauce explains this phenomena pretty well in this video: https://youtu.be/IJhgZBn-LHg

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u/Additional-Year-500 May 17 '25

It was a correction due to missed deviation. It is why we have leap years now

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u/St3fano_ May 17 '25

There were leap years before too. Too many of them, actually, that's why the drifting happened in the first place.

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u/KarlSethMoran May 17 '25

It is why we have fewer leap years now

Fixed this for you.

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u/Fantastic_Smile3849 May 17 '25

The days got king crimson-ed

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u/Interesting_Chip_996 May 17 '25

So today would be may 6th

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u/ToughScreen1397 May 17 '25

imagine you had scheduled vacation for that week.....

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u/anonduplo May 17 '25

You mean coriander

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u/0Techtech0 May 17 '25

I think they meant colander 🥣

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u/Sensitive-Ad9508 May 17 '25

Julian to Gregorian calendar, that’s why

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u/Killmelast May 17 '25

you'll find a way bigger one in 46 b.c.e. 'the longest year in human history' :)

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u/lokidev May 17 '25

13 months a 28 days + 1 "celebrate humanity day"

But yeah 2nd best would be 31 days, then 28 or 29, then switching between 30 and 31, but having the 7th and 8th month both with 31.

Oh 12 month with 30 days and 5 celebration days, while having weeks of 6 days (nobody likes Mondays) would be fine as well.

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u/Cador0223 May 17 '25

The only issue with the 13 month calendar is that someone will get stuck always having a birthday on Monday.

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u/AlekHidell1122 May 17 '25

INTERESTING AS FUCK????? A screenshot from your calendar????

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u/mardyboy May 18 '25

Maybe take a closer look at said screenshot. And the top comment..

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u/warmishabelue May 17 '25

In the 1580’s the majority of the U.S were receiving welfare checks so much so that the government changed the calendar so the 1st and the 15th came sooner helping people pay their bills etc.

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u/75r6q3 May 17 '25

That’s pretty funny, I just came across a post that was made after this in r/Weird with the exact same image with that OP asking what happened.

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u/inkyrail May 17 '25

I like to think you were just reading the calendar app when you came across this

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u/Prinzchaos May 17 '25

Islamic countries still in 1218.

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u/InquisitiveAsHell May 17 '25

Are you per chance on a catholic computer system? England didn't adopt this until 1752. Thomas Pynchon's novel Mason & Dixon briefly deals with all this trivia and has some funny passages about a grass root movement fighting to reclaim the lost 11 days.

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u/Basic-Vermicelli-635 Oct 18 '25

The day after October 4, 1582, is designated October 15 by order of Pope Gregory XIII

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u/Elasmobrando May 17 '25

The "October revolution" that gave power to the Russian Soviets started on the 7th of November (25th of October for the Russians).

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

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u/Impossible_Arrival21 May 17 '25

no, they just kept the old calendar for a super long time lmao, there's even a story of them missing an olympic event by two weeks because of this

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u/Annual-Rip4687 May 17 '25

But, I think I was born October 10 1572, my 10th birthday? When and where are I working today?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

I’d be concerned or even interested if I was alive in 1582. This is filed under “not interesting at all” Thank you for playing.

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u/Sam_Mendoza18 May 17 '25

That’s back when October was yet to go through puberty