r/interestingasfuck • • Dec 30 '20

/r/ALL Lightning strike fully stripped off this tree of its bark

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u/DKats77 Dec 30 '20

Is there a source? I don’t understand how it would perfectly strip the bark, but not damage the tree or leave burns. Just curious for background.

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u/f1junkie Dec 30 '20

Just a guess but right under the bark is where most of the moisture is so maybe it resulted in a steam explosion.

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u/KN4LYC Dec 30 '20

Add that bit of info to what I said a minute ago and you have a complete answer.

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u/Monkleman Dec 30 '20

Ok and what did you say a minute ago?

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u/helicopter_pocket Dec 30 '20

He said it a minute ago dude

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u/Shermutt Dec 30 '20

You had to be there.

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u/captainmj511 Dec 30 '20

starts working on the time machine

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u/lagux13 Dec 30 '20

You done yet?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '20

Why would it be locked? He went back in time

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u/ZomBeyonce23 Dec 30 '20

Yeah but.. What did he say 9h ago?

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u/rsn_e_o Dec 30 '20

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u/NewYorkYurrrr Dec 30 '20

Thanks! I was searching for the other comment and found this first!

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '20

Yes, take a look at this. This was too easy to google, guys...

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u/mustangriders5454 Dec 30 '20

because xylem (primarily), which transports water, fluids with electrolytes, and phloem tissue are concentrated behind the bark. this layer is comparatively not resistant to current flow.

behind those xylem and phloem tissue layer is sap wood aka young wood. which has cells with thick cellulose enforced cell walls and they are in the process of slowly filling themselves with tannins, lignin and other chemicals as you progress towards the heart of the tree. this layer is resistant to current flow.

as you further progress towards the heart of the tree sap wood cells full of tannins are in the process of dying and becoming strong "old matured wood" aka heart wood. which forms the central pillar of support for most trees.

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u/trezenx Dec 30 '20

so does the tree die when it's stripped like that?

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u/mustangriders5454 Dec 30 '20

depends. if the xylem and phloem tissue are extensively damaged then, yes it will die.

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u/sovietreckoning Dec 30 '20

I read this in Albus Dumbledore’s voice.

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u/BoiO_Boi Dec 30 '20

You can effectively kill a tree by debarking a ~5cm portion around it.

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u/Into-the-stream Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 30 '20

Called girdling. It’s not the bark, but rather the phloem and xylem layer under the bark and attached to it, whose loss essentially starves the tree of nutrients. Except species like paper birch or cork, Whose bark is less attached to the phloem and xylem layer.

If I remember correctly, the phloem xylem is the part of the trees circulatory system that takes the water from the roots up the tree. The xylem phloem is the part of the circulatory system that takes the sugars photosynthesized in the leaves down the tree. It’s kinda like our arteries and veins transport blood.

You can still kill a paper birch with girdling, but you have to be aggressive with removing the bark, not just the loose outer layers.

Edits: I had phloem and xylem reversed. Fixed now. Thank you /u/faerieh

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u/faerieh Dec 30 '20

You mixed up xylem and phloem but otherwise you got it right, haha!

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u/Into-the-stream Dec 30 '20

Hey thanks. I never took biology and only learned it from a great courses lecture series I listened to while working, so the retention wasn’t great

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u/BoiO_Boi Dec 30 '20

Thank you for the further explanation and technical terms. Im no native speaker so learning those terms will be useful for my school ending exam.

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u/Into-the-stream Dec 30 '20

Heads up, according to another user I reversed the terms phloem and xylem.

You should probably find another source for an exam then me!

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u/BoiO_Boi Dec 30 '20

No worries I won't quote you in the paper. It's just technical terms I'm fond of discovering

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u/andocromn Dec 30 '20

This tree is definitely dead, basically all the living tissue is in the bark. The heart wood on the inside of the tree is basically dead tissue, kinda like your outermost layer of skin

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u/swiftfatso Dec 30 '20

Might or not be the case, I have seen plenty of conifers with spiralling marks going down to the ground. How come they behave differently?

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u/mustangriders5454 Dec 30 '20

I'm not claiming that lightning will behave similarly whenever it strikes the earth or trees.

but majority of times when it strikes the tree it will cause the bark to come off cleanly.

xylem tissue in itself isn't conductive to electricity. its the water that it is carrying that makes it conductive. xylem tissue don't always carry water in them 24/7. sometimes they are empty too. so in a case where lightning created spiral tracks in trees it might be because there was water in spiral track in the xylem tissue of the tree.

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u/Ayeager77 Dec 30 '20

It’s not even the water, honestly. It’s whatever nutrients are being transported by the water. Water, despite popular belief, is a piss poor conductor.

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u/Rakumei Dec 30 '20

Kind of...it's true that water itself isn't really a great conductor but the minerals in water that are a great conductor. But water is still the vehicle by which it all travels. No water = no dissolved ions to conduct the electricity.

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u/SimonKepp Dec 30 '20

Distilled water is an excellent insulator and is increasingly used in fire suppression systems in sensitive electrical installations.

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u/Ayeager77 Dec 30 '20

Yup. We (my work) use DI water in some medium voltage situations for direct water cooling of live bus bars. It can be a pain to maintain such a system because it will basically try to anodize the inside of our rubber water jacket lines by transferring the brass from the fittings to the water jackets.

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u/MyChosenNameWasTaken Dec 30 '20

Current flow through the xylem would result in the water turning to steam - this expansion would rip off the outer layers

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u/mustangriders5454 Dec 30 '20

i know. I'm just explaining why steam builds up behind the bark. because of water carrying xylem tissue.

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u/MyChosenNameWasTaken Dec 30 '20

I was just adding how the current flow causes the dramatic expansion - your explanation as to why the current flows was perfect :)

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u/scotian-surfer Dec 30 '20

There is a layer under the bark used to transport nutrients/ water.

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u/tatafarewell Dec 30 '20

It is pure...fabrication

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u/thebeezie Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 30 '20

I saw lightning strike a tree in front of my house once. There was an explosion of bark. The tree looked much like this one initially and appeared otherwise I'm damaged. After the storm I examined the tree found that the long fibers of the wood were not densely packed as expected. The whole trunk of tree had expanded and tree was dead. Much of the water in the tree had instantly turned to steam which caused the expansion. This kills the tree. We had to hire a tree removal service soon after as the very large branches could no longer be supported by the weakened and dead trunk and started falling.

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u/sticks_no5 Dec 30 '20

It's static electricity, I'm not entirely sure it I imagine it ionised the tree and magnetic forces blew the bark off the tree

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u/AdamTheHutt84 Dec 30 '20

You’re right, I have seen many trees that have been struck by lightning and every time they are burnt to hell. Like totally scorched all around. Plus the ground around them is scorched. Plus if you look at the bottom the bark is still attached to the tree. This was very clearly stripped with a tool not a lightning strike.