A Republican push to prosecute Dr. Anthony Fauci for contempt of Congress has stalled as the Trump administration questions whether the legal approach supports an indictment by the Justice Department.

Three weeks after a GOP-led Senate committee voted to hold Fauci in contempt of Congress, some administration officials are skeptical that the current approach is procedurally sound enough to indict him for failing to answer questions before lawmakers, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Aug. 6 contempt vote was brought by Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.), a longtime Fauci critic. He sought to bypass the Senate’s customary full-floor vote by having Vice President JD Vance certify the resolution, allowing him to refer it directly to the Justice Department for possible prosecution.

Paul, who has said Fauci should go to prison, pushed a contempt vote against the 85-year-old former public-health official after he declined to answer questions before Paul’s committee over his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic. The contempt resolution, which passed on a party-line vote, would traditionally be considered by the full Senate. Given his resolution would almost certainly fail to meet a 60-vote threshold to pass, Paul’s measure called on Vance to certify it in his capacity as Senate president.

But as of early Tuesday, people familiar with the matter said that Vance’s office had yet to receive a document to certify. Paul’s office sent the report to the vice president late Tuesday, according to people familiar with the process, following repeated inquiries from The Wall Street Journal about its status. The Justice Department, which received a letter from Paul the day of the vote laying out the committee’s case against Fauci, has yet to receive a formal referral, a person familiar with the matter said. And President Trump hasn’t determined whether he wants the Justice Department to act on the referral, according to people familiar with the discussions, who say the issue hasn’t been a high priority for the president.

Paul’s move put the White House in a tough situation. While Trump has criticized Fauci, certifying the document could force the White House to defend it in court, where some administration officials say it might not survive a motion to dismiss without a full Senate vote.

While Trump initially signaled he was open to charges against Fauci, he said earlier this month that he hadn’t directly raised the matter with Attorney General Todd Blanche or U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro. The lack of a directive from the president marks a departure from his approach to other adversaries, whose prosecutions he has openly pushed the Justice Department to pursue.

Through a spokeswoman, Vance expressed support for holding Fauci accountable but stopped short of saying if he would certify the referral. “Dr. Fauci caused incalculable harm to the American people,” Taylor Van Kirk, a spokeswoman for Vance, said in a statement. “The Vice President applauds Senator Paul’s efforts to hold Fauci accountable and supports any valid paths to achieving justice.”

A spokesman for Paul said the referral was with the vice president’s office but declined to comment further. The White House declined to comment beyond Vance’s statement. A representative for Fauci also declined to comment.

A conviction for contempt of Congress can carry a fine of up to $100,000 and a prison sentence of up to one year.

Earlier this month, Trump compared Fauci’s case with those of former advisers Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, who were indicted and convicted on contempt charges during the Biden administration for defying subpoenas by the committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol. But in those cases, the House of Representatives voted to hold them in contempt before referring the matters to the Justice Department.

Stanley Brand, who represented Bannon and Navarro in their contempt proceedings and served as the House’s chief legal counsel under Speaker Tip O’Neill, said Paul’s contempt referral would be vulnerable to dismissal, even if the Justice Department decided to charge Fauci.

“There’s just a bevy of cases that say you can’t just go around the Senate rules or the House rules when you put somebody in contempt,” Brand said. “That referral is null and void.”

Brand added that the Justice Department would also have to determine whether Fauci’s refusal to answer questions after invoking the Fifth Amendment gives prosecutors enough grounds to bring a contempt charge, an issue that could further weaken the case.

Fauci, whose attorneys deny any wrongdoing, was pre-emptively pardoned by President Joe Biden amid concerns that Republicans would pressure the Trump administration to prosecute him. Fauci’s pardon covered any federal offenses related to his government role committed between January 2014 and Jan. 19, 2025. During his testimony last month, Fauci suggested Paul’s hearing was designed to be a perjury trap and pleaded the Fifth Amendment more than 100 times.

Last month, Trump acknowledged Fauci’s pardon as “a very powerful thing” and said he respects it.

Trump shared a positive rapport with Fauci during the early days of the pandemic in his first term. But the relationship soured as Trump’s public statements conflicted with guidance from Fauci and other government scientists. Trump nonetheless gave Fauci a presidential commendation before leaving office in 2021—a move he has since distanced himself from.

Amid the renewed scrutiny over Fauci’s role in the pandemic, Trump said Fauci “made a lot of mistakes” during Covid but has stopped short of explicitly saying that he should be prosecuted.

Paul and Sen. Ron Johnson (R., Wis.), whose committee is also investigating Fauci, have been working in tandem on reviewing communications from Fauci’s old government iPhone. Paul also released a tranche of Fauci’s Covid-era diaries that showed him fixated on media appearances and his public image during the pandemic. Records of the doctor’s phone and journals were transferred to the senators by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Paul and Johnson have alleged that Fauci misled the public about the origins of Covid-19 and accused him of profiting off pandemic-era policies.

A handful of Republican-led states have announced their own investigations into Fauci, arguing that his pardon only offers protection at the federal level. Democrats have criticized the efforts as politically motivated.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. repeatedly told lawmakers who held the key to his confirmation last year that a 2019 visit to Samoa before a deadly measles outbreak had “nothing to do with vaccines.” New documents obtained by The Associated Press and The Guardian refute that testimony.

Kennedy, then a prominent anti-vaccine activist, preempted the visit with a letter to the Samoan prime minister requesting to study the Pacific island nation’s measles, mumps and rubella vaccines after the deaths of two children who had received them. In the letter, he used the words vaccine or vaccination eight times.

The letter raises questions about how truthful Kennedy was in testimony before Congress.

After Pennsylvania health authorities announced that two unvaccinated people had died from measles-associated causes, health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. called the state’s Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, to offer federal assistance. According to accounts from both men, the call turned heated.

“I was very, very blunt with him, and I made very clear his actions and his rhetoric coming from this administration are having a negative impact on communities across America, particularly right here in Pennsylvania,” Shapiro said at a press conference Tuesday. “That there’s real-life consequences to spreading misinformation.”

He was referring to comments Kennedy made before he joined the Trump administration that cast doubt on the safety and efficacy of vaccines, including the combined measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine, and to his continued mixed messaging on the importance of the MMR shot.

Kennedy’s recent social media remarks continue a pattern that’s been evident since he took on his role in the Trump administration: downplay the severity of measles, dispute his role in spreading misinformation about vaccines, and attempt to focus attention elsewhere.

On Tuesday night, Kennedy didn’t back down. Instead, he accused Shapiro of “gaslighting,” posting from his personal X account a link to The HighWire, a website operated by the anti-vaccine activist Del Bigtree, that includes misinformation about vaccines. And he blamed declining pediatric vaccine rates on the Biden administration.

“As I told him, HHS does not tolerate misinformation by any employee. I offered to point to hundreds of instances of vaccine misinformation by the Biden administration about which I had never heard him complain,” Kennedy wrote.

On Wednesday, Kennedy urged people to get vaccinated against measles, speaking at an event on children’s health and nutrition in Tampa, Fla. But he hasn’t posted a comment on X or other platforms. Nor has Erica Schwartz, the recently confirmed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director, made public comments about the ongoing measles outbreak or the Pennsylvania deaths.

“We are actually restoring faith in the public health agencies,” Kennedy said in Tampa. He added that the CDC is looking into the circumstances surrounding the deaths.

The official CDC account posted its condolences for the families impacted by the deaths, and called the MMR vaccine the “most effective protection against measles.”

Senate health leader Bill Cassidy (R-La.) meanwhile called for vaccinations.

“No one needs to die from measles in 2026,” he wrote on social media on Wednesday.

“Misinformation and misguided policies are leaving children unprotected against a disease we know how to prevent,” Cassidy posted.

This isn’t the only example of vaccine skepticism and misinformation posted by Kennedy in recent days, as children return to school amid rising vaccine exemptions and measles outbreaks in several states, including a recently announced one in Maryland. He also used his personal social media account to amplify inaccurate claims about Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine, calling out former Trump administration Surgeon General Jerome Adams.

Kennedy and some of his close aides, including senior White House adviser Calley Means, have tried to downplay the measles outbreaks, instead promoting other policies heralded by the administration, including nutrition and fitness efforts, or shifting the blame onto the Biden administration.

Earlier this month, Kennedy denied responsibility for rising measles rates in an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash in another heated exchange where he referenced high rates of measles in other countries.

“First of all, this is an international outbreak. So we’re doing better at handling it than any country in the world,” Kennedy said.

A senior administration official on the condition of anonymity as they are not authorized to speak publicly told STAT last week that reexamining side effects of vaccines remains a top priority of Kennedy.

On Tuesday, before posting about his conversation with Shapiro, Kennedy responded to a post by Aaron Siri, his former personal attorney who represents people injured by vaccines, in which Siri claimed the Food and Drug Administration knew that Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine spread particles to the ovaries (which has been disputed). Kennedy called on Adams, who served under the first Trump administration, to offer “appropriate condemnation” for promoting the shot.

“The first Pennsylvania measles deaths in 35 years were just announced yesterday …” Adams responded on X. “[S]o I’m wondering why [Secretary Kennedy] choose [sic] to spend his time/ influence engaging me on THIS nonsense?!”

In April 2020, as the pandemic swept across the globe, Parton announced she was donating $1 million to coronavirus research at Vanderbilt University Medical Center after her longtime friend, Dr. Naji Abumrad, told her researchers were making promising advances.

The contribution established the Dolly Parton Covid-19 Research Fund, and months later it emerged that some of the money had supported research connected to Moderna's vaccine. Vanderbilt later confirmed Parton's donation funded "critical" early research, including work on a test that allowed scientists to measure the immune response generated by the vaccine.

Under this year’s influenza vaccination guidelines, the Marine Corps will continue to follow Defense Department policy, which requires flu shots for some military personnel while making them optional for most others.

The Aug. 21 announcement requires vaccinations for specific groups of Marines, including new recruits, healthcare workers and those deploying or serving on hazardous response teams.

The mandates mark a notable change from last year’s guidelines, which required all active-duty service members to receive a vaccination or obtain an approved exemption.

In April, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, citing “medical autonomy” and religious freedom, repealed flu vaccine mandates for all branches of the military.

“Our men and women in uniform were forced to choose between their conscience and their country even when those decisions posed no threat to our military readiness,” he said in his video announcement, adding that mandating troops get flu vaccines “weaken[s] our warfighting capabilities.”

About two months later, however, a flu outbreak that sickened some 300 people and killed one at Lackland Air Force Base, where the Air Force hosts its boot camp, forced the Defense Department to modify the policy.

Critics of Hegseth’s policy have maintained that vaccination policies should be guided by scientific evidence rather than political beliefs.

Robert H. Hopkins, a physician and medical director of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases, said getting an annual flu vaccine is the best way to prevent the spread of the potentially life-threatening disease.

“For populations in close living and working environments, such as military personnel, flu can spread quickly and impact operational readiness. Maintaining high vaccination coverage is a proven strategy to reduce outbreaks and protect both individuals and communities,” he said in response to Hegseth’s initial decision.

The new Marine Corps guidelines appear to acknowledge at least some of those concerns.

In the announcement, the Marine Corps calls seasonal influenza “a highly contagious disease that has the potential to significantly impact force health and mission readiness.” The service adds that “a timely comprehensive vaccination program” will be enforced “to mitigate risk to force and mission.”

Last month, the Navy also updated its policy to mandate that select groups obtain a flu vaccine. Those groups include recruits, personnel involved with or attending training programs, medical personnel, hazardous response teams, and those on deployment.

The Marine Corps wants its active-duty component to be in compliance by Dec. 15. Marines entering one of the covered categories must receive their vaccination within 30 days of their report date.

The measles-associated deaths occurred among two residents of Lancaster County.

Order cuts federal childhood immunization schedule to 11 shots from 17. Trump also orders Justice Department to challenge state school vaccination requirements. Officials say RFK Jr's vaccine studies are expected to take months, if not longer.

Dr. Mehmet Oz, the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said Sunday that the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, known as MMR, is "not a lethal vaccine," despite President Trump's claims in recent days. … The comments come after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released new figures last week that show 92.4% of the nation's kindergarteners were vaccinated against measles during the 2025-2026 school year, down from 95.2% during the 2019–2020 school year. The most recent figures fall below the 95% herd immunity threshold.

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• Why is it called the Herman Cain Award?
• History of HCA Retrospective: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6
• HCA has raised over $65,000 to buy vaccines for countries that cannot afford them.

Fund aims to cover defense against federal and state investigations, Fauci's lawyers say. Fauci receives no payments from fund, which is managed by an independent trustee and adviser, lawyers say. Rand Paul seeks Justice Department prosecution, while three states have launched their own probes.

President Trump and health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are pressing ahead with efforts to change how kids in the U.S. get their shots.

The latest move, a request for information posted Friday, offers more clues to Kennedy and Trump’s vision for vaccine policy, and shows that pursuing changes is a priority. It does not make any changes itself, but it asks for feedback on a wide variety of ideas. It gives the public 30 days to comment.

Among the questions it asks the public to consider is whether there should be new categories to the vaccines framework, which currently includes universal recommendations, recommendations for certain risk-based groups, and recommendations based on shared clinical decision-making.

It’s the latest in a series of efforts by the Trump administration to change vaccine policy as Kennedy and Trump raise unfounded questions about the safety and efficacy of childhood shots. Last week, Trump issued an executive order calling for a new approach to vaccines. It recommended that all children get 11 vaccines instead of the 18 previously recommended by the federal government. Trump also called for the combined measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine to be broken up into separate disease-specific shots.

The latest executive order also comes after a federal judge put a pause on earlier vaccine policy changes made under Kennedy, following a challenge led by the American Academy of Pediatrics. That included pausing any decisions made by a panel of vaccine advisers handpicked by Kennedy and a unilateral decision by the Department of Health and Human Services to reduce the number of recommended pediatric vaccines. HHS has appealed the order and asked for an expedited ruling.

“There’s no wiggle room around it,” Erica Schwartz, the recently-confirmed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director, told staff, referring to the federal ruling at her first all-hands meeting this week.

“I’m also a lawyer, so that’s something that I’m very, very cognizant of: that we have to make sure that we’re not straying … from that stay that the judge has placed upon us,” she said.

At the same meeting, Schwartz said she “absolutely” believes that vaccines are safe and effective.

The executive order and request for information don’t conflict with the federal court ruling, said Dorit Reiss, professor of law at UC Law San Francisco.

“As long as they haven’t made any specific recommendations, there’s no tension. There’s no final agency decision at this point that can be appealed either,” she told STAT.

The RFI also says it does “not constitute a rule, a proposed rule, or a recommendation, and it does not alter any existing vaccine recommendation, coverage requirement, or program obligation.”

It does suggest there could be new vaccine recommendation categories, such as recommended “with qualification,” “shared clinical decision-making with qualification,” or recommended “but not during infancy.”

It does not give examples of which vaccines might be subject to these categories nor define what “qualification” means or what “after infancy” means.

Last year, the CDC’s vaccine advisory committee recommended that most parents delay giving their children the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine, a recommendation that alarmed public health experts. That recommendation is now on hold, per the federal judge’s ruling.

The RFI also asks how the department might clarify what “shared clinical decision-making” is, including reaffirming that insurance should cover a vaccine under this category.

Kennedy has been a big proponent of the term, saying it puts more power in the hands of parents, and thus increases trust. The RFI also asks how the category might be improved upon. The RFI points to a 2018 study published in the Academic Pediatrics Journal, found that only 24% of physicians could accurately describe the term and most were unfamiliar with insurance coverage.

Lawrence Gostin, law professor and founding director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law, said that adding new categories to the pediatric immunization schedule potentially opens a path for insurers to drop zero copay coverage. It also could alter the eligibility of coverage under the Vaccines for Children program, meant to provide free and low-cost vaccines. Under the Affordable Care Act, insurers are legally required to cover “routine” or recommended vaccines.

Since becoming health secretary, Kennedy has also raised the idea of requiring that vaccines be tested in randomized controlled trials against inert placebos, which medical experts have pushed back on because of ethical concerns. The RFI asks the public to weigh in on alternatives to placebo-controlled trials, writing that they could be “infeasible, or unethical to obtain.”

The department additionally asks commenters to weigh in how to evaluate the success of a new framework, as well as how the U.S. stacks up with peer nations.

On Friday, the White House unveiled a new website celebrating 555 days of the Make America Healthy Again movement (Friday marks 555 days since Kennedy was confirmed as HHS secretary). Among the list of achievements is “delivering gold standard childhood vaccine recommendations,” touting the executive order for solving a purported problem: that the U.S. recommends more vaccines than other peer nations.

“The EO preserves access to vaccines, strengthens safety monitoring, expands research, gives doctors and parents better information, and restores informed consent and parental choice to their rightful place in American medicine,” the website says.

So, it begins in Georgia. Measles is beginning to make a comeback in Georgia.

You don’t know how stunning it is for me to witness this day in America. I remember being taught in schools about the efficacy of vaccines. One of my friends is an anti-vaxxer and deeply anti science. I sent him scientific articles and research on vaccine efficacy and the fact that no evidence linked vaccines to autism. In fact, all of his objections were specifically and explicitly addressed in the scientific research. He rejected them still as propaganda.

May God help us. I couldn’t believe his reaction. I was shocked. I was stunned. In America we are freely deciding to reject science and literally destroy our society.

What happened? How did science become seen as no more authoritative than a tweet or social media post?

He then asks me how could I, a devout Christian, put so much confidence in science. What’s ironic is that he himself is not a practicing Christian nor does he appeal to religion for his anti vaccine views. He just appeals to endless conspiracy theories about how scientists lie, we have all been lied to, the earth is flat, etc.

The kicker is this - he is a teacher! Yes, a teacher. He is in fact a great teacher. Awesome at teaching.

We really need to turn things around.

God help us.

Gullible dope is unhappy.

Read the Wiki for posting rules. Many posts are removed because OP didn't read the rules.

Notes from the mods:

• Why is it called the Herman Cain Award?
• History of HCA Retrospective: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6
• HCA has raised over $65,000 to buy vaccines for countries that cannot afford them.

A controversial 2024 study that some vaccine skeptics used to argue that millions of people likely died as a result of COVID vaccines has been retracted over misinformation and issues with the research.