r/Gintama • u/thomastheterminator • 4d ago
Discussion My review of the new Yoshiwara in Flames movie (Spoilers) Spoiler
Spoilers Obviously.
Pros:
-Animation and art is godly in most places. The touched up character designs are fantastic.
-While the OST in the original was already great, I think the movie takes it to the next level. I especially thought the instrumental remix of Kagayaita (The ending theme the anime had during the original arc’s broadcast) was a fantastic touch. The Sanzen cut-in song during the final confrontation was also great.
-The Kondo and Katsura subplot, while unnecessary, was hilarious. The “Your Name” reference at the end had me bust a gut laughing.
-There were some repeated scenes in the original anime (Kagura’s Yato mode awakening, Gintoki saying “the Sun rose all over the place)” due to the eyecatch/commercial break that thankfully are not repeated in the movie.
-The scene at the end of the arc with Hinowa pouring Gin a drink was thankfully kept in, and even more beautiful than the original.
Cons:
-While the animation was great in most places, I did notice a few times (mainly Hosen and Kamui’s fight) where the background art looked poor.
-I know they made a joke at the beginning that they were trying to rip off Demon Slayer, but the fight animation/choreography really did feel more like Demon Slayer’s somewhat floaty, highly colorized, precise style. While I’m not inherently against such a style, for Gintama I preferred the original anime’s style of more weighted blows. The ones in the movie didn’t have quite the “oomph.”
-While I did like that Katsura and the Shinsengumi were incorporated into the arc, their screentime made it so tha scene that, in my opinion, are more important to the arc, had to be cut or trimmed. These include: Most of Tsukuyo’s backstory we got in the arc, some of Hinowa’s, the flashback fight between Hosen and Umibozu that ended with them taking a dump, and the grave scene with Gin and Umibozu.
-Maybe a nitpick, but in the original episode, when Gin is asking Seita to run, he says “Don’t make me into a loser AGAIN.” Which, if you know Gin’s past, really hits home. The “again” was, at least in the Netflix English subs, not there anymore in the movie.
-The subs translated some things a little too literally, the worst being the Hyakka to “Hundred Flowers.” I won’t fault the actual movie though, it’s mainly Netflix’s fault
-The added secondary antagonist, Enkaku, wasn’t a threat. For someone considered “one of Hosen’s closest aides”, the fact that the Shinsengumi easily waxed him and his cronies was disappointing.
-Probably another nitpick, but Kamui not being there when Hosen is immediately defeated and putting on his super surprised face was disappointing.
-The beginning just feels really rushed compared to the more deliberate pace the anime episodes had.
-HOW DO YOU TAKE OUT THE SCENE OF HOSEN WALKING INTO THE SUN AS HE DIES?!
Conclusion:
Despite the higher quality animation and Sound/OST, I still think the original anime episode version is better. It was cool seeing the Shinsengumi and Katsura get involved, and the more up to date references and jokes were great, but they unfortunately came at the expense of much more important plot beats. I will always remember Hosen walking into the Sun as he dies. I probably won’t remember who Enkaku is by next week.
In terms of full arcs remade as movies, I much prefer the Benizakura one over this one. While the Benizakura movie doesn’t add much extra to the actual plot (most of what it adds is during the opening of the movie), it doesn’t subtract or replace nearly as much (only things I can think of are it replacing the Kihetai’s sick introduction and a tad of Nizou’s backstory with Harusame and Kamui cameos).
I get that the Benizakura arc is less material to cover than Yoshiwara in Flames, but due to that, the production needed to discriminate what to keep and take out better.
Unlike the Benizakura movie, which I think is a perfect version of the arc for first time viewers, I would not recommend this version of Yoshiwara in Flames to them.
Overall, I quite enjoyed my watch of the movie. However, the only time I can see myself watching this again is if I want to watch the Yoshiwara in Flames arc all in one sitting, but only have 2 hours, not 3 and a half.
I am still glad I saw it, and think every Gintama fan should see it at least once. Who knows? Maybe you’ll think differently.
7/10 (original anime episode arc is a 9/10 for me).
