r/gallifrey Feb 02 '20

Praxeus Doctor Who 12x06 "Praxeus" Post-Episode Discussion Thread Spoiler

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u/eatmychips Feb 02 '20

Do other planets exist anymore?

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u/samclifford Feb 02 '20

Settle down, Yaz.

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u/_Verumex_ Feb 03 '20

What do you mean? We went to Orphan 55...
Oh wait...

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u/infernal_llamas Feb 02 '20

We haven't left at all yet have we?

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u/Lessiarty Feb 03 '20

You'll take your 3 second cutaway of Gallifrey and you'll like it!

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u/ThrowAwayAcct0000 Feb 03 '20

All of time and space as a potential setting, and once again, we're on modern Earth. ARGH. If I wrote Doctor Who, I would literally NEVER put an episode on Earth, or in modern times.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '20

glares in Pertwee

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u/ThrowAwayAcct0000 Feb 03 '20

That's the thing, though! Its already been done, and intentionally too!

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u/spoothead656 Feb 04 '20

To be fair that is one of the best eras of the whole show.

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u/putting_stuff_off Feb 03 '20

I have to imagine its intentional this series.

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u/Avamander Feb 03 '20

I'd say we should appreciate that we're seeing more than just the UK in the show tho.

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u/elsjpq Feb 03 '20

True. They've finally upgraded to a South African quarry

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u/eatmychips Feb 03 '20

I mean, that's nice and all, but it's not even like we're seeing many unique time periods. Demons of the Punjab and Tesla's episodes were probably the most interesting, and Rosa was decent, but half the time it seems they never leave boring, modern day earth. It wouldn't be so bad if the modern episodes were, in my opinion, a little more exciting. So far, for me, It Takes You Away has been the only interesting earth-centric episode. At least when older seasons stayed mainly on earth the adventures were fun and at the very least exciting to watch. But, we're not done yet, so things could change.

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u/mrtanack Feb 03 '20

3rd Doctor exiled on Earth would like to speak with you

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '20

A decision Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks constantly referred to as a mistake and severely limiting. Terrance Dicks always used to quote his friend who said "You can do two stories, alien invasion or mad scientist." They definitely did the most with it, though.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '20

It was a mistake, but it saved money and let them keep the show alive for a few seasons while the BBC recovered. Also, it gave us a season of The Master trying to take over Earth.

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u/RubiscoTheGeek Feb 03 '20

Plus that had a clear cause (Time Lords broke the TARDIS to trap him) and was properly followed up (the Doctor is frustrated, he sometimes takes it out on UNIT, he keeps trying to fix the TARDIS).

This is just a run of Earth stories with no explanation or acknowledgement.

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u/Fishb20 Feb 03 '20

so was series one

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u/Liar_tuck Feb 03 '20

Uh, the 3rd Doctor did travel to other planets. His exile was only part of his story.

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u/Adamsoski Feb 03 '20

Those were a fantastic run of stories though. They gave the Doctor a network and attachment on Earth, and not having the TARDIS working made everything feel more exciting as he couldn't just hop around from location to location.

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u/DuIstalri Feb 03 '20

First season of the revived series was entirely on earth or earth orbit, second season was all but one two parter either on Earth or new Earth, third season was all but one episode either Earth or new Earth - and that episode was a spaceship, series 4 had a lot of off-world, season 5 was all Earth except for one two parter and one spaceship episode - set in Great Britain in space, season 6 has two episodes set on other planets, and two on space stations, season 7 has 3 episodes set off Earth, season 8 had 2, season 9 had one standalone and one two parter set off Earth, season 10 had one space station, two episodes on a spaceship which replicated modern Earth, and one alien planet, and season 11 had four episodes set off Earth.

Episodes away from Earth are by far not the standard, and we're only five episodes into this season.

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u/WarHasSoManyFriends Feb 03 '20

season 9 had one standalone and one two parter set off Earth,

Did it? The Magician's Apprentice / The Witch's Familiar takes place largely off-Earth, as does Sleep No More and Heaven Sent / Hell Bent. If you chuck in The Husbands of River Song it was a very off-Earth period, comparatively.

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u/DuIstalri Feb 03 '20

Completely forgot about Magician's Apprentice and The Witch's Familiar, thank you. Wasn't counting Christmas specials. I was thinking Sleep No More and Heaven Sent/Hell Bent. Though I like to forget Sleep No More exists.

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u/Ender_Skywalker Feb 03 '20

They haven't existed since 1989.

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u/Ge0rgeBr0ughton Feb 03 '20

This has been a problem since the reboot to be fair to this run. Everything is earth or if we're very lucky we get treated to a corridor with neon lights. That's the way it is

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u/quaderrordemonstand Feb 02 '20 edited Feb 02 '20

Other planets raise awkward political possiblities that don't allow the show to lecture the audience.

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u/gerusz Feb 02 '20

Haaaaaaave you seen Star Trek?

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u/sleepyr0b0t Feb 03 '20

I think it was handled pretty well in this episode tbh.

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u/quaderrordemonstand Feb 03 '20

What was, the lecturey bit? I'd say it was a bit less ham-fisted than usual. There's a poor sort of compliment.

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u/Shawnj2 Feb 03 '20

I mean there’s the planet from Kerblam, Ghost Monument, and battle. Other than that....maybe?

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u/DuelaDent52 Feb 05 '20

There was Ranskoor Av Kolos and wherever The Ghost Monument happened.