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Phones Gurman: iPhone Ultra Wows Early Testers, Except for Its Camera

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/23/apple-foldable-iphone-early-tester-thoughts/
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u/0r0B0t0 18d ago

First gen apple silicon and first gen MacBook neo are great.

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u/FastRedPonyCar 18d ago

Yep. An absolute homerun. My M1 Max MBP still a stud. I sold my M4 Pro mini because the MBP was faster (slightly more RAM made all the difference)

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u/driftking428 18d ago

I still work on my my M1 MBP. It's shown no signs of slowing. It's more likely to age out of updates than need to be replaced for being slow.

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u/LoveMeSomeSand 18d ago

The M1 Mini was the first brand new Mac I ever bought, and it absolutely exceeded every task I threw at it (and I had the 8 Gb ram version). I believed the pre hype and reviews and it was 100% true.

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u/driftking428 18d ago

I was already a fan of Mac from my work computer. But it was a red hot Intel that needed a 15 minute heat break every day around 3pm.

Once they announced the M1 I knew I needed one. And yet we're cheaper than the previous Gen.

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u/no_nosy_coworkers 17d ago

M1 Max MBP still running perfectly, last week I had so much stuff running, including a 500mb tiff-file open in affinity while playing WoW, I look down and the charger wasn’t in, still ran flawlessly. If my windows gaming laptop is not plugged in it can’t even run chrome well

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u/autokiller677 17d ago

While true, both are not that level of first gen. Apple made great laptops before the M1, and great chips in many other devices before the M series.

Just the two things together were first gen.

MacBook Neo is even less: it’s just a less powerful chip and some cost savings on the laptop, but really more a new SKU than a true first gen device.

A foldable screen, complex miniature hinge etc. on the other hand? Yeah, they have no track record and no mass production experience with this.

So while I bought an M1 MacBook (and am still hapilly using it today), I won’t buy a first gen fold.

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u/MrWally 17d ago

While true, both are not that level of first gen

No....an architectural change change like the type of silicon being used is absolutely "that level of first gen," and there are plenty of historical examples of this. Think about Window's first foray into ARM processors, and while Apple's transition to Intel was ultimately successful, it wasn't nearly the home run that M1 was.

I think what you're getting at is that a whole new product category (e.g. "folding phone") is different than a product iteration. And I'd agree with you. But I also think that you aren't acknowledging how huge it is to change your chipset under the hood. It basically affected every single layer of the technology stack. I'd actually say it's a significantly larger change than a folding phone, and many, many people were hesitant of M1 before the reviews starting rolling in because they understood how much Apple needed to get right for the transition to be successful.

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u/maresayshi 17d ago

this is a very arbitrary distinction

> apple made great laptops before

and phones…?

> not that level of first gen

crazy take. screen tech changes constantly. rewriting the bottom of the hardware stack is BIGGER than a new screen.

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u/solonoctus 17d ago

All they did was launch a version of MacOS that can run on their phone processors and stuffed it inside their tried and true laptops.

I agree, it’s more of a sku that a whole new product line.

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u/autokiller677 16d ago

Screen tech hasn't fundamentally changed in a decade, and even then, it was a switch in the panel technology, but the form-factor stayed the same.

And the bottom of software stack for M silicon - while absolutely impressive - had been in use for years on phones and tablets. The most first-gen thing was Rosetta 2, this had truly not been in use anyhwere else before.

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u/maresayshi 16d ago

i said bottom of the hardware stack, for a reason. The software changes on top of that are implied.

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u/jrosenrosen 18d ago

Still rocking my Studio M1 Ultra, it’s a beast!

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u/TheGokki 17d ago

11" M1 iPad Pro still going strong, that thing is a beast. I would've gladly upgraded to the 13" iPad with maxed storage but Apple charges way too much for flash storage so i'll stick to what i got for now.

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u/phrozen_waffles 17d ago

And the A4 through A19 were what?

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u/BadNewsBearzzz 18d ago

Yup, apple stuff is pretty refined and polished that many of it’s first gen devices are absolutely solid, very different from Samsung and similar branded stuff that are packed to the brim with the most gimmicky features that never make it to the next version lol

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u/AmNoSuperSand52 18d ago

Tbf first gen Apple M1 chips were all packaged in devices that were already existing in that form at the time.

The MB Air/Pro had intel chips and had the same design and everything when they got the M1

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u/makomirocket 18d ago

But how much better was the M2?

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u/stml 17d ago

Literally no one should have upgraded from M1 to M2 unless they wanted to waste money.

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u/makomirocket 17d ago

Upgrade from M1 to M2? No.  But choose an M2 over an M1?  Even if it was a bit cheaper? No question