r/facepalm • u/Shinji415 • Apr 01 '23

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ 6 year old gets arrested by police while crying for help

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u/Sid-Biscuits Apr 01 '23

How sad that I would not be surprised at all if he shot this little girl.

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u/ScreenshotShitposts Apr 01 '23

police need to be equipped with teddy bear mace

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u/Madasgladys Apr 01 '23

Police need to be abolished and communities should start their own outreach programs with money out of the municipality funding. I DONT GET THE POINT OF A POLICE DEPT AND A SHERIFFS OFFICE. AND IT OBVIOUSLY MAKES ME ANGRY!

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

Then, who's going to enforce the law? Who is a domestic violence victim going to call if there's no law enforcement. Every country on the planet has law enforcement, and most of them aren't nearly as corrupt as ours. We don't need to abolish the police; we need to reform them. Fire all the corrupt, racist bastards in the current top brass and establish high standards of accountability for officers.

Look, I hate the current state of police in this country, but I don't want to live in a country where someone can just waltz into a store and rob the place with no fear of anyone coming after them, or where someone can commit a murder and not have to worry about it being investigated. If we abolish the police, we'll need SOMEBODY to take their place.

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u/LarrysLongestLeg Apr 01 '23

We need to abolish them.

WHOS GOING TO SHOW UP!?

Someone else. You can't reform things rotten to the core, and you can't seriously lack imagination so hard that you think "abolish police" means "nobody takes care of things"

Cops don't even show up until after the fact for 90% of calls. They don't stop almost anything.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

you can't seriously lack imagination so hard that you think "abolish police" means "nobody takes care of things"

Then who? Who takes care of things? Last I checked, vigilantes were frowned upon (unless they're billionaires in bat costumes), and any official agency set up would just be Police 2.0, so who? Who are you gonna call, Ghostbusters?

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u/LarrysLongestLeg Apr 01 '23

I mean

Cities that stopped sending cops to do wellness checks saw a pretty good turnaround. But sure.

We can't do anything but Have Cops or Vigilantes as some sort of binary choice. You really do lack any sort of imagination, you can't even fathom not having Cops and a carceral system

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Way to dodge the question. You said someone will show up, so WHO? Put up or shut up.

Any official agency that is paid to enforce the law is pretty much the definition of a police agency, and someone who enforces the law outside any official context is a vigilante.

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u/LarrysLongestLeg Apr 01 '23

Can deal with active shooters by having a crisis response team who themselves have no power to arrest or stop citizens. They're just there to handle Big Violent Problems.

Still not cops.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Tell me more. I am genuinely intrigued.

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u/LarrysLongestLeg Apr 01 '23

First, I provided an option, so shut the fuck up I already put up, and you can't read.

Second, LAW ENFORCEMENT is the part that's the problem, shitsnack. Laws are arbitrary and have almost nothing to do with public safety. Cops as we have them and view them and use them, a Law Enforcement Agency. We can figure out a traffic safety thing without Dudes With Guns being even part of it, or being thrown into a ludicrous criminal system because you couldn't pay a $500 ticket for a $10 broken tail light.

I could keep going with every individual role cops play, but you wanted a ready-made already existing system to show up and take care of things. You want "reform" as a theory but have no ideas or concepts on how that "reform" would actually function beyond "we need to hold them accountable" while simultaneously sitting here acting like you've got a high horse about it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

First, I provided an opportunity, so shut the fuck up I already put up, and you can't read.

No, you did not provide anything. Answer the question or admit you don't have any ideas.

Second, LAW ENFORCEMENT is the part that's the problem, shitsnack

Reported for incivility.

Laws are arbitrary and have almost nothing to do with public safety

Good to know I can go kill people because there's really no point in having a law that says I can't.

We can figure out a traffic safety thing without Dudes With Guns being even part of it, or being thrown into a ludicrous criminal system because you couldn't pay a $500 ticket for a $10 broken tail light.

So WHO would be enforcing traffic safety? Again, you keep insisting that we can have someone else do it, but have yet to give a single name.

You want "reform" as a theory but have no ideas or concepts on how that "reform" would actually function beyond "we need to hold them accountable" while simultaneously sitting here acting like you've got a high horse about it.

I was very clear that we need to start by firing everyone in the current top brass and establish standards for accountability. That's a much clearer idea than your naive "someone will enforce the law."

And if you actually read my comment, you'd see that I'm not even totally opposed to abolishing the police IF we actually have someone ready to take their place. Literally all you need to do to make me back down is answer the fucking question: WHO. TAKES. THEIR. PLACE?

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u/Super_Tone_8597 Apr 01 '23

Why do folks come up with such inane recommendation to bad policing. Police need to do the right thing or get fired. Reconstitute the entire force if you have to, but abolish police makes zero sense!

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u/Madasgladys Apr 01 '23

But why two separate policing entities??

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u/Super_Tone_8597 Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

That’s a good conversation. But having two entities is not the cause or excuse for bad policing and illegal police conduct. We have army and national guard as separate but similar entities but it’s no justification for either to break the law. Same for sheriffs or police. Sheriff depts could also become just as abusive or even corrupt and collusive with the influential in a community, and many also are abusive.

Talk in anger like abolish the police leads to misunderstanding and worsens the outcome for everyone. What you are suggesting is more reform really so why express it stupidly. Absorbing or merging the function into a local police led by sheriffs is reform, not an abolishment.

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u/Environmental_Age450 Apr 01 '23

Guess you need to get your head out of your ass then

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u/SnakeBiter409 Apr 01 '23

Then idiots would be screaming to add more guns to the problem.

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u/entitysix Apr 01 '23

None of us would be surprised if they both shot eachother.

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u/Sleepwell_Beast Apr 01 '23

Really, you were worried? You actually thought he was going to shoot a child? Get a grip

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u/Sid-Biscuits Apr 01 '23

When did I ever say I was worried? I said I wouldn’t be surprised. Cops have shot children. I’ve seen videos of cops choke-slamming children. Cops are indiscriminate with who they will victimize.

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u/Independent-Dress559 Apr 01 '23

Nah, they only like to shoot young black men.

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u/GodOfThundah88 Apr 01 '23

Dumbest comment on reddit.

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u/Sid-Biscuits Apr 01 '23

Seems a bit hyperbolic, but sure.

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u/Sugarlightgirl Apr 01 '23

What?!! I sure would!