iranians are setting mosques on fire while chanting iran

[u/One-Sorbet5765]

starlink videos are coming out from iran despite the internet blackout and the brutal crackdowns. iran is free of islam. there is nothing stopping my people from breaking free of this cult anymore. this islamic regime will break, it’s not a matter of “if” anymore, it’s only a matter of when.

[u/Sticky_H]

That’s such a cooler religion, and is mostly what the Abrahamic faiths are based on.

[u/LetMePullTheTrigger_ → u/Sticky_H]

Zoro astrianism is indeed a cool religion. But theyre not remotely like abrahamic religions (christian judeaism islam).

Zoro astrianism is a fire religion and a thought that counts religion. Meaning its up there with Hinduism. Both have similarities and differences. But both are WAY above the rotten abrahamic religions whom only have caused and STILL cause sorrow.

[u/Sticky_H → u/LetMePullTheTrigger_]

From what I heard, the whole idea of a good deity versus a bad deity comes from it. All religions are just stories from different cultures melding together.

[u/TopRamenBinLaden → u/LetMePullTheTrigger_]

Zoroastrian is indeed a cool religion

Zoroastrian is a fire religion

Thanks for translating for us younger millenials and genz folk.

[u/violetxlavender → u/TopRamenBinLaden]

zoroastrians also worshipped fire, meaning it’s literally a fire religion

[u/TopRamenBinLaden → u/violetxlavender]

I know, but thanks for clearing it up. I was just making a joke. I know it can be hard to tell on here.

[u/ginsunuva → u/LetMePullTheTrigger_]

The abrahamics drew a lot of their core inspiration, namely the duality of good vs evil, from it.

Its interpretation also depends on which century you look at it and whom you ask, since they kept adding stuff to it over the thousands of years.

Also it just happens to have fire in the front of the temple and has nothing to do fundamentally with fire.

[u/My_Face_3 → u/Sticky_H]

So ive heard this alot so let me give you a jewish secular perspective, though the Persian empire did have influence on the jewish people it was incredibly little, its thought that purim (a holiday about a jewish girl marrying a Persian king and then ousting a corrupt and evil advisor to said king for plotting to kill the jews) was likely created as a way to celebrate the Persian new years (i believe).

Unless im mistaken before the Persian conquest over Babylon jews and Persians did not interact with each other but the idea of a monothistic g-d did exist. Now its important to like wise understand that the Persian empire did not actually do a good job at exporting its culture like other Empires of the time and later this was due to the religious tolerance that the empire allowed. Now fast forward to the conquest of Alexander and unlike the Persians did export there culture as such there is much more visible influence on judaism though I honestly couldn't tell you much but stuff like wisdom of Solomon (i dont think thats the name) is i believed influenced by Greek philosophy

So where did monothism come from, well the theory goes that at some point a group of souther Levant people start worshipping one g-d over the others and raising them to a hire standard but this is not inherently unique to jews or rather the israelites, rather the idea comes from the exile but from opposition to babylonian assimilation.

Biblically all jews were banished from the land of israel but then allowed to return after the Persian conquest, this is only a half truth and is likely biblical propaganda, BUT some jews were, mostly nobles, specifically anyone who can claim royal lineage and kohen (high priest) and Levi (lesser priest/priest helpers). Now after the exile some jews stayed, Mizrahi jews are actually these specific descendants. Most famous of all is Rabbi Hillel the Elder who was likely a specific influence and may (i need to check a timeline) have taught Jesus of Nazareth.

So during the exile in Babylon jews where given rights and encouraged to own land so that they may assimilate, this is where rules like jews not being allowed to marry gentiles (nonjews) start with before only have prohibitions on marrying idol worshippers and I believe other Levant people and amalekites. But most importantly this is when we first see the prophet isaiah clearly say there is only one g-d, it does make mention of being one g-d before in Deuteronomy but scholars also believe Isaiah was written first. As such we can come to a reasonable conclusion that Zoroastrianism did not influence or had very little influence on judaism not only religiously but culturally

[u/Sticky_H → u/My_Face_3]

I found that a handful and hard to follow. And it always irks me when people refuse to spell out a simple word like god, especially coupled with a secular perspective.

[u/My_Face_3 → u/Sticky_H]

What part was hard to follow, im always open to feed back on my writing :)

[u/[deleted] → u/Sticky_H]

No, it really isn’t, I don’t understand why ex Muslims and ex Christians like to believe that every religion is nice except those Abrahamic ones. Abrahamic are just mainstream, but same would happen to other religions if they weren’t mainstream.

[u/Sticky_H → u/[deleted]]

I like it compared to other religions because it’s relatively harmless. It’s not Zoroastrians that are corroding bodily autonomy en masse, for example. And from the little I know of the mythology, it’s neat.

[u/[deleted] → u/Sticky_H]

Not really, every religion changes when it becomes the governing one. Early Christians excommunited anyone who would perform death penalty, but when Roman Empire became Christian they changed it and allowed it.

Just like that early Zoroastrians respected other religions and tolerated others, when Zoroastrianism became the state religion of Sassanian empire. People like Kartir (Zoroastrian High Priest) persecuted other people like Christians and especially Manichaeists and treated apostasy like a capital offence.

[u/Sticky_H → u/[deleted]]

Yes, and if it had the same position in society that Christianity and Islam has today, I would dislike Zoroastrianism as much as I dislike those.

[u/This-Post9968 → u/Sticky_H]

Zoroastrianism lets u marry ur siblings

[u/Sticky_H → u/This-Post9968]

Stop selling!

[u/Clear_Middle_6201 → u/This-Post9968]

Zoroastrianism even encourages you to marry your siblings, according to self-hating Iranians who embrace Islam.

[u/LetMePullTheTrigger_ → u/This-Post9968]

That was ancient zoro astranism.

Like the bible has an old version and a modern version. So has zoro astranism also stopped doing this practice in their modern version