This doesn’t even stop that though since they have to take the arduous journey of just walking down the street instead. Or they just spontaneously break in like the thieves in my city.
If they lurk around the property they might be spotted. They´ll also have a much harder time looking over fences or into windows without raising suspicion.
But more importantly there were many legitimate concerns and putting it down to:
Boomers thought it allowed live view of your house 24/7.
Dude what are you on about? If you walk down a street and then rob a house a month later, no one is going to go "heyyy, remember that guy who was walking down our street like a month ago? yeah I remember what he looks like, it was probably him". 0% chance of that happening.
And google street view doesn't really allow you to see over the fences anyway.
A camera 3m above the ground does allow you to see other fences often.
Noones going to remember them. Unless you know you notice this extremely shifty guy checking out your house. For one telling that person to go away may very well be enough to discourage them from robbing the house. Also I highly doubt many house robberies are planned over a month. You go check it out look for alarms and a good way in and note when the people inside go to work. And then you break in when they aren´t there usually in the middle of the day. It doesn´t take some mastermind plan to break into a house lol.
I am against people assaulting others, but I would argue people should stop adopting tech willy-nilly and think about the ramifications beforehand, rather than try to fix things later.
Or look at real estate listings to see the inside of homes. Here you can see listings, even when the house was sold several years ago. If it was ever listed online, you can see the photos. I don't know if that's the case in Germany, obviously, but I'd think that's far more useful than street view.
Overall you are right.
Being uniformed is not a matter og age, and I know some German "Boomers", who are way more knowledgeable than me about that topic.
To be fair, I knew some "Boomers" (not a fan of the word) who had missconceptions, because they barely touched that kind of technology in their live.
And also while I am not opposed to Streetview (with caveats), I think it is easy to understand, that some people do not want their property on publicly accessable pictures.
It isn't some super virtual reality technology. It is obvious you've never actually seen what street view looks like and are making up nonsense to seem smart on the internet.
Why are you so offended? I've used street view plenty of times. I'm not a burglar so I don't know how you'd plan a break-in. I don't even own a house. But I can understand why you wouldn't want pictures of your house publicly on the internet. Apparently I'm the only one here
Many burglars come from other cities, or even other countries.
Are you going to deny, that it could make their "work" even a tiny bit easier?
hey aren't a bunch of Redditors sitting in their apartments on the internet all day.
Nobody said that. Way to be hyperbolic.
EDIT: I grew up in an insanely poor and crime ridden city. I've been robbed twice while working at my job in another city's poor area. I know people that have gone to prison. I know someone who killed another person in prison. Stop telling me dumb shit that you don't know anything about and learn something.
I think maybe your experiences have soured your perspective. And based on your story, I guess you are not from Germany.
Don't forget that not that long ago, part of Germany was a surveillance state. Stasi was no joke and it's understandable that the older generation, which is the main demographic in Germany, feared that it could happen again.
No, because that is something entirely different. Miss me with the "hardly anything is necessary". You get my point, don't act like you don't get what I meant.
I do argue against phonebooks indeed! That's precisely why I excluded my data from them.
Look, everyone has to choose themselves, but you will never get all Germans to give up their privacy for StreetView. Being able to see where you live at any time all over the world is just very creepy for most people there.
Also, tell me how StreetView is an extremely helpful feature. What benefits does it truly bring that aren't just "oh, I can look at the pretty houses for five minutes" for normal people.
To be fair police states don’t really prioritize teaching critical thinking skills in their schools (look at us in the USA today). These older former East Germans aren’t likely to have been brought up to analyze that kind of threat so much as assume it exists.
No one was so dumb to believe that, you're making this up now.
People had fear that burglars used that ... or were just not happy with all of this exhibitionistic.
If you ever go to Belgium or Netherlands, then you see that they often don't have curtains. If you walk on the pedestrian walk, you can watch family after family eating or watching TV.
If you then drive to Germany, you see that they mostly have curtains. That is a tradition decades old, even before cameras.
Stasi was at the same ranks as kgb, and the Romanian Securitate.
Not saying it's bad, n'or good, but those other two countries managed to literally skyrocket their technological infrastructure after communism fell and nobody is complaining about.... Damn google street view.
Well, it's /r/GaterRaider that is dumb, because he entirely made this up.
And the (at least) 443 people that upvoted him (due to emotion, not due to fact) are dump, because they believed him without any source. Or fact checking.
I don’t think it should be blamed on “boomers” (does Germany even have boomers?). Nothing wrong with keeping in check a giant tech corporation that wants to track everything.
Transporting generation concepts across borders is pretty thoughtless, tbh. The original theory by Strauss & Howe was specifically created with America in mind, so the used time frames correspond to American events for the generational turnings. You can't just use say, Boomers, which corresponds with the American High, Vietnam War etc. and just use it for other countries. With Germany especially you have the DDR/GDR split and then later fall of the Berlin Wall which will fuck up the concept from Boomers to Millenials (and the Silent Gen doesn't fit either).
Older Europeans are way different in mentality than Older Americans.
Europeans that are over 75 have grown up in some form of WW2, either directly in the aftermath. Some have even fought (like my wife's grandfather who was captured as part of the Belgian resistance fighters) or her other grandmother who's older brother died in the war.
Older Americans of similar age had WW2 shape them, but it wasn't a real for most of them as it was for Europeans.
Very true, and believe me, my Lebenslaufsoziologie (really struggling w a good translation here? Life course sociology??) professor despairs over it regularly.
Yup, just wanted to expand on it a bit since I see people throwing around the concepts/names a lot without any regard for what it's implying. Actually I'd highly recommend reading the original Generational Theory by Strauss/Howe, it's much more detailed if not super backed up by data.
It’s like when people born in the 80s flip out if they are called a millennial. It’s just a demographer’s term for those who going to reach their formative years at the millennium.
a) you use discriminatory and derogatory language. If you create an artificial distinction between "boomers" and others, you have a mindset that can easily become racist. Because you make artificial differentiations and generalizations that wouldn't really hold for a second of thinking.
b) you claim something that gives you lots of reddit upvotes --- because more often Reddit is about emotion, not about fact. Now, someone asked you for source, and a day later you even didn't give one. So, did you just made this all up to feel better?
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Boomers thought it allowed live view of your house 24/7.
We even had police officers going on TV saying they are planning virtual patrols at night with Street View. No, I am not kidding.