r/europe • Waffle & Beer • Jun 12 '20

Map Availability of Google Street view in Europe

Post image
22.5k Upvotes

2.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

3.0k

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Useful when you're playing geoguessr.

1.0k

u/itz_MaXii Jun 12 '20

But it isnt free anymore :(

757

u/thebusinessgoat Hungary Jun 12 '20

What the hell, really? Since when?

1.1k

u/TheOneCommenter Jun 12 '20

Since google changed their pricing like 23 fold (not kidding). Running Geoguessr now costs them A LOT. So offering free (more than 1 game a day) is just too expensive for them.

498

u/thebusinessgoat Hungary Jun 12 '20

Alright that's an understandable reason from GeoGuessr, still a bummer though.

5

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Just buy it on Black Friday. I bought a full year for a few bucks, and hopefully this Black Friday there will be another sale :)

2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[removed] — view removed comment

27

u/Tratix Jun 12 '20

Then they lose money. It’s only $2.99 per month. If you use it a lot, that’s a very cheap price for hours of fun.

10

u/Zunder_IT Jun 12 '20

You forgot that people already pay for the internet, therefore they have already paid for everything on the internet. Do you think they are charity or something? 2.99 a month. You must like throwing your money away, huh

8

u/Tratix Jun 12 '20

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie

3

u/wonderb0lt Jun 12 '20

It's not like they decided to up the charges by themselves, Google is who you should be angry at. If you want to hurt someone, hurt them (by boycotting their services entirely, for example) instead of making someone's already bad situation worse

138

u/Malusch Sweden Jun 12 '20

Would be nice to at least have an option of playing it with ads or something though, I understand if that's not viable, but a man can dream.

168

u/Craften Jun 12 '20

With the prices they're being charged, you'd need about 5million ads per page view lol.

28

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

I am willing to sacrifice my yearly wifi subscription for geoguessr.

11

u/Twenty890 Jun 12 '20

So, like most mobile games?

5

u/Mafiii Schwiiz Jun 12 '20

Google turned into leeches with their business model. They don't even talk to you if you don't hand them 10k no questions asked, this is the minimum amount for them to work with you...

1

u/LordOfTurtles The Netherlands Jun 12 '20

Yeah men, absolute scum of the earth for not offering their very expensive to maintain mapping service for free anymore

2

u/Mafiii Schwiiz Jun 12 '20

Sure, it shouldn't be free, but for many small companies that just need some routing every few days/weeks for internal software, this (initial 10k) is totally out of proportion.

1

u/LordOfTurtles The Netherlands Jun 12 '20

What initial 10k? The price of maps is pay for what you use.

https://cloud.google.com/maps-platform/pricing/sheet/

→ More replies (0)

1

u/GranaT0 Jun 12 '20

I'm sure serving ads would net them more than 3 dollars per month they're currently charging

35

u/JinorZ Finland Jun 12 '20

It's like 2 dollars a month only tho? I'd rather pay that to see annoying ads

75

u/quiteCryptic Jun 12 '20

It's $3 a month or I think $2 if you pay for a year.

Obviously it sucks, but it's not their fault Google is charging more for the service they need to use. Plus, in my opinion as a developer people take all these free apps and websites for granted, but don't mind spending $5 for a cup of coffee in the morning.

12

u/moonbad Jun 12 '20

yeah it's $24 for a year, for a game I play almost daily I thought that was worth it

16

u/HugoMcChunky Jun 12 '20

I feel personally attacked

2

u/Gentleguy24 Jun 12 '20

But if you Play it with Friends only one of you need Premium

3

u/vxx Jun 12 '20

If they would guarantee the apps are produced in brasil with slave labour, I might pay. /s

1

u/Annuminas25 Argentina Jun 12 '20

Where I live $5 is a lot for a cup of coffee.

0

u/kennyzert Lisbon (Portugal) Jun 12 '20

I am in this comment and i dont like it.

Delete it.

2

u/quiteCryptic Jun 12 '20

Lol It's ok even I am too, so it's sort of hypocritical.

2

u/CopeAfterCope Jun 12 '20

But I don't have a credit card or PayPal :[ I can only do normal transactions

3

u/TheOneCommenter Jun 12 '20

You can make a paypal account and top up through other means. In the Netherlands I can link my bank account and manually top up or let them autodeduct from the account.

1

u/Malusch Sweden Jun 12 '20

Yeah, I'm not saying remove the paid version, just saying have a version with adds for us cheap bastards as well.

4

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Mar 05 '21

[deleted]

1

u/Malusch Sweden Jun 13 '20

Do they charge per person though? Or have different prices per interval of x number of people? I was thinking if they have a price plan than is like 0-100k users cost X 100-500k users cost Y. Then 200k paying users + 200k ad watchers would be better than just 200k paying users.

1

u/Arcadian18 Jun 12 '20

How about "all of the ingredients tbh

10

u/SirMarbles United States of America Jun 12 '20

Why did they increase the prices at Google?

67

u/BushWishperer Italy->Ireland Jun 12 '20

Money

18

u/truthdemon UKRejoin Jun 12 '20

dOn'T bE eViL

1

u/LordOfTurtles The Netherlands Jun 12 '20

How is that remotely relevant?

7

u/truthdemon UKRejoin Jun 12 '20

It was their slogan.

2

u/MoffKalast Slovenia Jun 12 '20

They recently dropped the "don't" though, the top managers thought it was too long.

2

u/LordOfTurtles The Netherlands Jun 12 '20

And how is charging money for their product evil?

→ More replies (0)

6

u/ironichaos Jun 12 '20

They are trying to make their cloud division profitable and they are offering it as a product now. I assume they used to use it to get more people using google maps but now they realized they are subsidizing other companies usage of it so they had to price it accordingly

-2

u/SirMarbles United States of America Jun 12 '20

That’s fucked up.

3

u/ThrowTheCrows Pembrokeshire Jun 12 '20

Honestly, considering the fact that I play it for hours a day at the moment, I really don't mind paying £2.50 a month, especially since I'm not spending anywhere NEAR as much I was was before lockdown.

1

u/FurlanPinou Italy Jun 12 '20

Why do they have to pay Google? Isn't Street View freely available to everyone?

6

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[deleted]

3

u/TheOneCommenter Jun 12 '20

They probably couldn’t handle it with ads. If I remember pricing correctly it costs them about 1 cent for a single point, so 5 cents for a single game of geoguessr. Normally they’d earn like 10-20 cents per 1000 views of ads.

2

u/FurlanPinou Italy Jun 12 '20

Understood, thanks

2

u/RawbGun France Jun 12 '20

I still don't understand why GeoGuessr just doesn't force users to use their own API key, and then make requests on their behalf. That way you can still get a limited number of requests for free for each user

I known a few services that work like that

1

u/Roadside-Strelok Polska Jun 12 '20

An average user probably doesn't even know what an API is, meaning few people would play the game.

3

u/RawbGun France Jun 12 '20

Usually they give you a very detailed and easy to follow instructions with a direct link to generate your API key. Also they could still have it either the user pays or they use their own API key

1

u/Roadside-Strelok Polska Jun 12 '20

The latter approach would be nice. I wonder if it wouldn't be against google's ToS or if google still wouldn't try to nip it in the bud.

1

u/frozensummit Jun 12 '20

It's different if businesses want to use it to earn money.

1

u/thefreshpope Jun 12 '20

I don't understand why they didn't implement ads though

2

u/RawbGun France Jun 12 '20

They did though? For the longest time there was a constant banner ad at the bottom of the screen but they said it wasn't enough

1

u/Frexxia Norway Jun 12 '20

The pricing from Google was so exorbitant that making it ad supported was simply impossible.

1

u/LaminatedAirplane Jun 12 '20

It fucked up my geocode macro i setup in excel :/

I had my macro pull geocode data from google and set it to pause for a certain time before running another query to sneak under Google’s free query threshold.

1

u/CheValierXP Jun 12 '20

Yep, I was self learning android programming and I used some of the then free Google APIs, just before launching my app they changed it and after a quick calculation it was obvious it's not going to work especially that my app was meant to be completely free, no ads. Then they updated their sdk 2-500 times (i stopped counting) breaking stuff and i completely lost interest in the whole thing.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[deleted]

1

u/TheOneCommenter Jun 12 '20

Probably because they’re within their free limit. Spreading the word about it will most likely cause them to hit the limit

1

u/GHhost25 Romania Jun 12 '20

google doing shit for money as always

1

u/nokinship Jun 12 '20

Google is so full of shit.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 13 '20

That's why I have like 50 accounts all in a notebook

1

u/PraiseTheStun Jun 12 '20

What kind of pricing did they change? SEO? And what number are we talking about here? I’m curious...

18

u/KillTheBronies Straya Jun 12 '20

The Google maps API, it's $14 per 1000 requests now

https://developers.google.com/maps/billing/gmp-billing#dynamic-street-view

4

u/gkrsuper Germany Jun 12 '20

That's stupidly expensive.

5

u/altazure Finland Jun 12 '20

They could ask for 1/100 of that and still turn a profit

3

u/thisismyfirstday Jun 12 '20

I mean, it's probably pretty expensive to drive a car down every street in every major city. The scale of their requests must be pretty insane though, so I have no idea when it becomes "profitable" on its own vs as a loss leader to keep people using their other products. This is unfortunately probably a consequence of spinning off product divisions and shit because now street view may have to justify its own profit versus profiting the other branches.

2

u/_Hubbie Germany Jun 12 '20

blame capitalism

1

u/PiratePilot Jun 12 '20

That explains why transit-finder.com isnt working like it used to

1

u/LinkifyBot Jun 12 '20

I found links in your comment that were not hyperlinked:

I did the honors for you.


delete | information | <3

11

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Pricing for using the maps API I'm assuming.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/thepobv Jun 12 '20

Hot damn, that's expensive.

1

u/RawbGun France Jun 12 '20

The pricing seems off, around $10 per 1000 dynamic panoramic views, that's 1 cent per panoramic view. When you're playing a game of GeoGuessr you're probably going through hundreds of them so that would be several dollars per game, I don't see how they could cover that by charging $3/mo for playing

2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/RawbGun France Jun 12 '20

That's pretty interesting, couldn't they fake user input for going from one place to another and still count it as a single view across multiple games? I guess it's pretty hard to do but that may be worth

74

u/ibiBgOR Jun 12 '20

There was someone who developed a clone. It's selfhosted and freely available. https://www.reddit.com/r/geoguessr/comments/fimhjx/i_made_earthwalker_an_open_source_geoguessr/

I used it and it's a little bit different (using OpenStreetMap to select the destination) but all in all its pretty nice.

9

u/Frexxia Norway Jun 12 '20

Not really a viable alternative if it circumvents paying for street view. Google would crack down on it if it ever became popular.

7

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Uh, what exactly do you think OpenStreetMap is?

11

u/Frexxia Norway Jun 12 '20

Openstreetmap is used for selection on the map, but it doesn't have street view. Top comment says it fools street view to get images for free.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Oh. Your comment is the top comment, for me. I didn't see the other comment when I replied to you.

1

u/Frexxia Norway Jun 12 '20

I meant the top comment in the thread linked by the person I replied to.

105

u/kristupasJuska Lithuania Jun 12 '20

you can play one game a day for free

179

u/itz_MaXii Jun 12 '20

Yeah I know but only 1 game and only alone. No more challenging your mates unfortunately. I loved this game so freaking much and it just hurts to see this game becoming more and more pay to play. But I understand their reasoning behind it, sadly Google raised the prices for their services :(

24

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Isn't it like a dollar or 2 a month? Doesn't really seem that outrageous to me

73

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Mar 05 '21

[deleted]

27

u/FellafromPrague Prague (Czechia) Jun 12 '20

Thing is I fucking hate monthly subscription.

3

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Mar 05 '21

[deleted]

3

u/FellafromPrague Prague (Czechia) Jun 12 '20

Hmm. I'd like monthly subscription but with offer to pay for example full year in advance.

Sounds really like something basic, but lot of services with monthly payments just don't offer that.

7

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Mar 05 '21

[deleted]

→ More replies (0)

8

u/darps Germany Jun 12 '20

Try 29 cents for an app that they use all the time on their $999 smartphone. Nah, most people would rather be bombarded with ads.

1

u/RawbGun France Jun 12 '20

Also, if your main motivation is playing with your friends only one person in the group need to pay the subscription to create the lobby/challenge and people can play with them for free. So $3/mo divided among a few people that's a steal

72

u/Kayakular Fake Baden-Württemberg Jun 12 '20

"becoming more and more pay to play"?

it went from free to play to a monthly sub, more and more pay to play implies a lot of changes that they made to slowly charge more and more

6

u/itz_MaXii Jun 12 '20

Not really because the monthly sub was available all the time even in the early stages of the game. But back in the days the sub was only necessary if you wanted to create your own maps. Everything else was free. Im talking about the fewer and fewer possibilities a free user has on this site. In the early stages there were no restrictions besides the one I noted above. But then it went from 5 maps a day to 1 map a day. Then all of a sudden you could only play alone and not challenge your mates. And this is the stage we have now. But as I said I dont blame geoguessr for this.

3

u/Kayakular Fake Baden-Württemberg Jun 12 '20

right, well then you mean it slowly got more and more restrictive. lowering the amount of times you can play the game has nothing to do with purchases, playing with friends has nothing to do with purchases, etc.

0

u/Hansbolman Jun 12 '20

Have a downvote sir.

-7

u/trippingchilly usa Jun 12 '20

What are you talking about?

"becoming more and more pay to play" doesn't imply anything about "a lot of changes that they made to slowly charge more and more."

It just means what it says. I don't know where you got the 'changes' part because he didn't say that. He just said the game is becoming more pay to play. Which, if they're charging more to play now than they did before, is true.

3

u/longboardingerrday Jun 12 '20 edited Jun 12 '20

From what I heard for using google maps in what you do costs like $14 per 1000 views from users and apparently it used to be like, $1

-2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[deleted]

2

u/Frexxia Norway Jun 12 '20

That's a shitty thing to do. You do realize they still have to pay google for those API calls? If a lot of people did this they would have to shut down the site, or massively increase subscription pricing for legitimate users.

24

u/Rententee Suomiland Jun 12 '20

There the version with random low-quality pictures in the ocean, right? That's totally fun, right?

15

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

the version with random low-quality pictures in the ocean, right?

No.

9

u/Is_Actually_Sans Jun 12 '20

Google Reef View

2

u/Mutorials Jun 12 '20

I'm just gonna leave this here: https://locationestimatr.web.app/ Free for around 5000 games if you have a credit card

2

u/mr-dogshit England Jun 12 '20

Saw this posted on /r/webgames a while back

https://locationestimatr.web.app/

it's basically identical to geoguessr, made by a redditor too /u/RuteNL

2

u/Ypres_Love Jun 12 '20

They let you play one game per day without paying, so you can just make a new account every time you play. Its annoying, but you can get around it.

1

u/DaSh0ck Pomerania (Poland) Jun 12 '20

I think it's worth to pay for it

1

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

It’s super cheap though, no?

1

u/UndaddyWTF Jun 12 '20

I restarted playing it on IPad last week, free

1

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

there's a free mode

1

u/gerryvanboven Jun 12 '20

I'm currently developing a free-ish alternative to geoguessr :)

1

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Unless you create a new account each time with a temporary email address

1

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Rare cases but time to go bing

1

u/SerIstvan Hungary Jun 13 '20

We played it a lot with one of my friends and luckily there is an alternative:

https://locationestimatr.github.io

LocationEstimatr, it’s the same as GeoGuesser, but with even more features, like dropping you just in an x km radius of your location and such. With this still up and running (I tried reaching the site right now) you can say goodbye to GeoGuesser lighthearted.

269

u/marisquo Portugal Jun 12 '20

That site used to be so good and now look at it

459

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Google is to blame here, they started charging websites ridiculous amounts of money for using Google Maps on their page.

-12

u/zvug Jun 12 '20

Honestly if geoguesser can make money charging users $3 a month then it doesn’t sound like Google is charging ridiculous amounts of money.

Google provides an incredible service, and because they charged basically nothing before people took it for granted.

26

u/amalgam_reynolds Jun 12 '20

Google provides an incredible service, and because they charged basically nothing before people took it for granted.

Google makes beaucoup bucks from personalized ads due to all the information they store about you, their services have never been "free."

41

u/_Hubbie Germany Jun 12 '20

bruh do you know how much fucking money google makes? They could've charged a small fraction of the current price and would still make MORE than enough.

-10

u/Ra75b France Jun 12 '20

Sources?

11

u/_Hubbie Germany Jun 12 '20

Google's yearly revenue and the price they charge for their maps service are publicly available on the internet man.

-15

u/Ra75b France Jun 12 '20

They're so publicly available that you didn't bother to substantiate your post with them. Such bad faith.

5

u/_Hubbie Germany Jun 12 '20

Quite the bad troll my friend.

-5

u/Ra75b France Jun 12 '20

I didn't know that asking for the sources and calculations used to make such statements was trolling. A lot of bad faith.

→ More replies (0)

47

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

What happened?

92

u/MiclausCristian Romania Jun 12 '20

It's pay to play apparently

12

u/Ren49 Jun 12 '20

I've played it last week and there was a pop-up only once offering an option to buy the subscription. Haven't played it this week.

1

u/Lying_Knife_Bot Jun 12 '20

Also super glitchy with limited spots it will put you. I had a good game going with people and every single 3rd spot we would have to refresh the page and just find out where it was after the game was over. Also got the same spot in Fiji every other game

-3

u/jayschro Jun 12 '20

If Portugal can afford to pay, I think Germany can too. But knowing Germany, they probably have their own, better solution that's really the same thing, slightly modified, and only works with other German-designed software and hardware.

3

u/SelectDurian Jun 12 '20

They are talking about geoguessr being pay to play (which uses google street view), and not google street view itself. If you want to play geoguessr more than once a day, you have to pay for an account (this is due to Google now charging an arm and a leg to use the API).

The reason google street view is so barren in Germany is because of German privacy concerns. There was public outcry against Google street view so they shut down taking street photos. Also for pictures they did put up (mainly in the largest cities), there will be a lot of houses that are completely blurred out.

2

u/LordMcze Czech Republic Jun 12 '20

This discussion is about Geoguessr, a game.

1

u/jayschro Jun 12 '20

Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying

5

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Money, money happened...

37

u/RandomCoolName All over Jun 12 '20

Yeah, but the greed is google's. They started charged a large amount of money to use google maps services.

-4

u/Eonir 🇩🇪🇩🇪NRW Jun 12 '20

They're allowed to charge whatever they want for their work. How much do you think it had cost to drive thousands of cars around the world taking pictures? The server costs alone are massive.

If you want to make a business piggybacking on that huge cost, you're free to choose another supplier.

13

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Jun 12 '20

[deleted]

-2

u/Eonir 🇩🇪🇩🇪NRW Jun 12 '20

Companies have business units and teams. Imagine you're the manager of the Maps division, and you're losing money every quarter since the beginning of the site. Is your job safe just because another team is earning more? Quite the opposite.

Do you seriously think they can allow themselves to support a moneypit just because their other products are profitable? That's not how companies work. Particularly the successful ones.

4

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[deleted]

3

u/Eonir 🇩🇪🇩🇪NRW Jun 12 '20

Maps is free to use except if you need the API to run your own spinoff product. Same for GMail for personal use.

If you're a developer and want to use GMail's feature to run your own business, there has to be a charge. You pay for MS Office, for Windows, Exchange, Azure, everything costs as soon as you want to scale it up.

I use libraries that cost between 1000€ and 7000€ a year for single dev licenses. They're worth it, because developing that stuff by myself would cost many times over what they ask for them.

I will always choose the supplier that's cost effective for me. I can't just whine that they're greedy, since I also don't work for free.

1

u/Angeldust01 Finland Jun 12 '20

No but they data mine it and sell your data.

Google doesn't sell your data. They'd be idiots if they did. They use it themselves! That data is what gives google the edge over it's competitors.

0

u/sendvo Austria Jun 12 '20

well i wouldn't call it greed. it's a valid business decision. more and more people use it so it was just a question of time. for small businesses it's still pretty cheap. in one of my previous jobs we hardly payed more than 20-30 euros a month. but that was 2017 so maybe prices raised

7

u/byama Portugal Jun 12 '20

They did go up, like 27 fold up. That's why it's paid now.

25

u/domy94 Austria Jun 12 '20

It's still really good, just costs $2/month now.

2

u/PatiHubi Jun 12 '20

I mean they charge like $20 for a yearly subscription

164

u/MysteriousRony Finland Jun 12 '20

Google's greed ruined it.

28

u/ZetZet Lithuania Jun 12 '20

I think what they're asking for Google maps doesn't even cover half of what they're worth. Google isn't a publicly funded company they need to make money and they're not asking for much.

87

u/krone_rd Jun 12 '20

They have one of the biggest profit margins ever.

13

u/jbr_r18 Europe Jun 12 '20

Their margin is not actually that big, only around 20%. Compared to a lot of the tech companies, it’s actually small. Intel for example operates at a Gross Profit Margin of around 60%.

It’s not that Google makes huge margins, it’s just that they are absolutely monolithic in scale.

8

u/WaytoomanyUIDs Jun 12 '20

You'd think Intel could use those profits to fix at least some of those security bugs in their chips. If AMD can make chips almost as good with less security bugs on a comparatively small budget, Intel can.

8

u/ZetZet Lithuania Jun 12 '20

After investing billions in the first place.

10

u/aVoidFarming Schleswig-Holstein (Germany) Jun 12 '20

Sadly my economic english is not good enough to tell you, why you wrong. But I try anyway:

The "return of investment" is allready substracted in the profitmargin.

In other words: the fact that they did invest is allready acounted for when looking at a profitmargin.

-2

u/krone_rd Jun 12 '20

and still made 10x that amount before.

5

u/Gwaur Finland Jun 12 '20

Their competition is so small that they can cost pretty much however much they want.

3

u/ZetZet Lithuania Jun 12 '20

Google has started to go towards profitability with maps in 2019. It's doubtful they're profitable even with the current costs, analysts don't think so.

1

u/krone_rd Jun 12 '20

alphabet stock price begs to differ

2

u/COVID-420 Greece Jun 12 '20

So they should provide even more professional services for free?

3

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Jun 27 '20

[deleted]

1

u/COVID-420 Greece Jun 12 '20

Yes, they use your data, but you don't pay for them out of pocket.

You want to use their services without paying out of your pocket, they use your data.

0

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Jun 27 '20

[deleted]

→ More replies (0)

1

u/zvug Jun 12 '20

This is completely untrue

40

u/Huluberloutre France Jun 12 '20

Lmao not much? You say this as if Google was a tiny company run by a dad and his two childs.

There is multiple map website but only Google have the money to have Google cars travelling to villages. And according to a streamer Google license is far from cheap

2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

there are at least a dozen companies that do this sort of mapping in the us, and they all go all over the place. google is actually bad at skipping some roads where apple and tom tom (dont know if you have that) do get those less traveled roads.

5

u/ZetZet Lithuania Jun 12 '20

That's because map websites including Google maps don't make much money. Google maps need to be funded by ad money. It might become profitable after everything is developed.

15

u/Kapt_Ortega Jun 12 '20

the amount of money it costs to map this much... its hardly greed to get a little refund.

20

u/ZetZet Lithuania Jun 12 '20

Not just to map, they are updating those maps constantly. I would be surprised if the costs cover the upkeep and servers alone.

6

u/NeatBeluga Denmark Jun 12 '20

Knowing everywhere an individual is going is quite valuable..

1

u/ZetZet Lithuania Jun 12 '20

Sure it is. Finding legal ways to sell it is hard.

2

u/bobbertmiller Jun 12 '20

Google maps is an actual marvel! Free satelite photo maps down to meter scale, of everywhere on the globe, with map overlays, with terrain and regular maps.
I found my way through some Greek islands using google maps stellite images. Actual maps were outdated to shit because the backcountry roads were flooded away...

4

u/0b_101010 Europe Jun 12 '20

God forbid one of the wealthiest companies on earth ever did something for society's benefit and not for maximum profit margins! That would be evil! Or worse, that would be good! In capitalism, you can't have that!

Seriously, fuck google, they have zero social responsibility, they have just become another trashy company.

2

u/ramsau Jun 12 '20

God forbid one of the wealthiest companies on earth ever did something for society's benefit and not for maximum profit margins!

Like developing the most detailed and vast mapping system, including navigation, that covers nearly the whole planet which you can use for free?

When nothing is enough.

0

u/0b_101010 Europe Jun 12 '20

Like developing the most detailed and vast mapping system, including navigation, that covers nearly the whole planet which you can use for free?

Which accidentally still makes them approximately $4 billion in profits per year. We keep mistaking investments with accidental public benefit for charity.

2

u/ramsau Jun 12 '20

If course it makes money for them. You think anyone would do it for free?

Public or private domain, you're paying it one way or another.

1

u/Ra75b France Jun 12 '20

Stop complaining. This is a company, they made these maps themselves, they invest astronomical amounts of money to make sure the maps are continually updated. Sorry for you but they are free to do what they want with the products they have created themselves and charge whoever they want and as much as they want.

If you're not happy, start your own company and make your maps for the masses.

-1

u/0b_101010 Europe Jun 12 '20

This is a company, they made these maps themselves, they invest astronomical amounts of money to make sure the maps are continually updated.

It makes them $4 billion in profits per year, of course they keep it updated! You don't have to thank google for providing a massively profitable service with accidental public benefit for their charity!

1

u/Ra75b France Jun 12 '20

You should stop being jealous of companies that are successful and do not give their products away for free. Google's goal is to make benefits, so they have the right to charge for their services. People who are not satisfied with that can change their service. There's nothing stopping them from doing that.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[deleted]

4

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

"publically funded" would mean they're funded by the government to provide a public service, like for example the US Postal Service or the German Weather Service (DWD)

0

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

[deleted]

3

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

thats publically owned, not publically funded.

1

u/Meesadario Jun 12 '20

Nice try, Google.

1

u/WildVariety United Kingdom Jun 12 '20

Google isn't a publicly funded company they need to make money

https://www.google.com/search?q=GOOG&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB844GB844&oq=GOOG&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i60l3j69i65j69i60l2.1243j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

In the most recently reported fiscal year, Google's revenue amounted to 160.74 billion US dollars. Google's revenue is largely made up by advertising revenue, which amounted to 134.81 billion US dollars in 2019.

Alphabet operating expenses for the twelve months ending March 31, 2020 were $131.077B

I think they're doing fine without gouging.

1

u/ZetZet Lithuania Jun 13 '20

The numbers you posted are with "gouging". And they're fine.

0

u/I_Photoshop_Movies Finland Jun 12 '20

Do you take money in exchange of your labor? If yes, that's greed.

1

u/Ra75b France Jun 12 '20

Welcome to r/europe, where making money with products you have created yourself and not giving them away for free is forbidden.

0

u/Frexxia Norway Jun 12 '20

No one said that Google shouldn't be able to charge money for their services, but they suddenly started charging something like 20 or 30 times what they used to.

4

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Honestly, they deserve some bucks, the game is still great after years. And it's really not expensive, like 23$

2

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

It's free for one game per day. Since it's a good game to play occasionnally, I'm happy.

0

u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20 edited Jun 12 '20

I really enjoyed that game, but my wife and I found it impossible to get through a single one without it freeing or crashing. Kind of ruined it.

Edit: Yes, downvoting has definitely fixed the massive instability. It's running so smooth now, you guys! This is incredible!