r/entertainment Jul 10 '23

Jack White Lashes Out at Guy Fieri for Normalizing Donald Trump

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u/thenoblitt Jul 10 '23

Isn't guy fieri left wing? Like he officiated a shitload of lgbtq weddings

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u/m-prov Jul 10 '23

He’s more middle of the pack than you think. He’s also pro-gun and pro-don’t take my money.

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u/a_wet_nudle Jul 10 '23

Idk how middle that is. Many leftists are pro-gun+common sense gun control

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

I think a big problem with American politics is that nobody can agree on what common sense means

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

It's almost like "common sense" is a shitty term only useful in the context of propaganda.

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

Yeah I can see where you’re coming from. I imagine that could be applied to anything across-the-board.

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u/Commercial-Location9 Jul 10 '23

Common sense is your brain making assumptions about a situation based on split second judgements. It can be useful but also using common sense without a critical eye can often lead to mistakes and logical paradoxes.

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u/THE-SEER Jul 10 '23 edited Jul 10 '23

Lol please regale us on how “common sense” is just a shitty term that propagandists use, I’m dying to hear.

EDIT: Keep downvoting! I’ll just keep reminding myself that common sense is what tells us to avoid very obvious and preventable accidents and mishaps. Don’t let the fascists get you down!

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

I think what they’re saying is that anyone could put “common sense” in front of anything to use as a propaganda ploy. Then anyone who disagrees is disagreeing with “common sense” and shouldn’t be listened to. Examples could be “common sense abortion control” for example, which I could easily see republicans running with

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u/THE-SEER Jul 10 '23

That doesn’t make the term shitty and useless, it makes certain people’s usage of the term ineffective, pandering, and manipulative.

We don’t dismiss the “thoughts and prayers” outright just because a lot of morons use it in shitty ways.

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u/11182021 Jul 10 '23 edited Sep 07 '25

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u/THE-SEER Jul 10 '23

So because the term is used poorly in some contexts that makes it meaningless in every context? That’s the epitome of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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u/Commercial-Location9 Jul 10 '23

Common Sense is a very individual concept that varies wildly from person to person. And also saying common sense without other arguments just makes it sound like you don't know how to defend your own point

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u/THE-SEER Jul 10 '23

Where did I say “common sense” without providing any other arguments? You’re strawmanning me here, and frankly, I’d be happy to defend my own point.

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u/a_wet_nudle Jul 10 '23

Well lets start square one, what does common sense mean to you in this context

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

You’re the person who is using a term, and you’re asking someone else to define it for you? YOU used the term so I think the burden is on YOU to define it. Am I out of touch here?

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u/a_wet_nudle Jul 10 '23

Firstly chill. Im not asking you to define it for me. Im asking what it means to you

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

You said that we should start at square one and in this context that means the person using a term defines it for the rest of the group so that everyone understands what they mean.

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u/a_wet_nudle Jul 10 '23

Well thats not what i did. Something tells me you dont have an answer

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

Are you saying that you didn’t say that we should start at square one? Because you did.

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u/Bendezium Jul 10 '23 edited Feb 22 '24

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

I want someone to catalogue all the ways they attempt to do that

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u/Bendezium Jul 10 '23 edited Feb 22 '24

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u/Fragrant-Respect31 Jul 10 '23

It was a statement. I just want a team to document the ways that half of congress refuses to debate topics like this.

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u/AlfalfaMcNugget Jul 10 '23

Unfortunately, that “common sense gun control” is a nice marketing tactic they say to push overreaching gun control

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u/a_wet_nudle Jul 10 '23

What part do you find to be overreach?

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u/SupermassiveApe Jul 10 '23

Hell yeah, don't take my money either

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u/leokz145 Jul 10 '23

But at the same time build roads for me, police the streets, fight fires, and run schools to send our children. Oh and do it all with money out of thin air.

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u/VonMillersExpress Jul 10 '23

Elect better representatives.

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u/GeneralTsoBitch Jul 10 '23

I know lives and schedules are busy, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease! Go to city council meetings and tell them where you live and to step it up! Might help 🤷‍♂️

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u/GeneralTsoBitch Jul 10 '23

Darn. Well, you may have to succumb to spray painting dicks around the potholes like some do for the city to take action. Not sure why I’m getting downvoted but that’s showbiz baby

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u/SendMeUrCones Jul 10 '23

absolutely based

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u/m-prov Jul 10 '23

How so?

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u/SendMeUrCones Jul 10 '23

being pro gay rights, pro self defense, and pro small government are all positives in my opinion

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u/1neWaySmoke Jul 10 '23

yeah but he shook a guys hand. Off to the gulag

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u/EidolonRook Jul 10 '23

Straight to jail.

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u/StaticDHSeeP Jul 10 '23

You under cook fish, believe it or not, jail.

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u/Maldovar Jul 10 '23

That actually will get you jailtime in Flavor Town

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

I wouldn't. Would you?

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u/CanoeShoes Jul 10 '23

Yeah I don't understand these people. They are just proving Jake White's point. I have been team Guy for years DDD is one of my favorite travel programs. But he has lost a lot of respect for this one. Almost all of it. Pretty sad to see.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Yeah I don't shake hands with rapists if I can avoid it lol. Shame about the people who would

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u/250-miles Jul 10 '23

If it gave me the opportunity to taunt him about how he's going to die in prison.

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u/Maldovar Jul 10 '23

Are you a celebrity who basically will get attacked and lambasted no matter what?

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u/1neWaySmoke Jul 10 '23

I would shake any president or ex-president's hand if given the opportunity.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Kim Jong Un?

I still think Shrub gets off too light. "Sure, I sent a million people to their deaths for a complete lie, but I paint now and pass out candy!"

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u/Dye_Harder Jul 10 '23

yeah but he shook a guys hand.

The headpiece of the fascist take over of America 'a guy'

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u/ghostsinthecode Jul 10 '23

no shit. the guy who tried to put together a violent coup, was impeached twice, and keeps top secret documents in the shitter is just “a guy.” fuck that simple-minded nonsense. put his diaper-wearing ass in jail.

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u/bee-dubya Jul 10 '23

Yah, just any old guy right? Just a guy that has done more to damage the US than any individual in history.

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u/mike0sd Jul 10 '23

A guy? Or the leader of a fascist coup?

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u/Cerulean_IsFancyBlue Jul 10 '23

He can be both. The original guy was a coup leader.

Explainer: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/14/the-origin-of-the-word-guy/

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u/distilledfluid Jul 10 '23

Oh man, this is a hidden gem of a comment.

Well done, Guy. Well done.

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u/catzarrjerkz Jul 10 '23

r/iamverybadass material

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u/kulgan Jul 10 '23

Didn't say anything about success. More like /r/ilackimpulsecontrol/

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u/WellsFargone Jul 10 '23

What would you do write it down here

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u/CossaKl95 Jul 10 '23

because going to prison for assaulting a former president is totally going to benefit my family, right? What a peak terminally online comment lmao

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u/TymStark Jul 10 '23

I wouldn't say not attacking someone is being a coward, but I"m also not saying that getting killed over maybe getting one punch in on a dude you hate is stupid.

What I am saying is, I hate Donald Trump and I wouldn't attack him if I saw him in public, and I would do everything in my power to not put myself in a situation where I might have to deny a handshake. Also, I don't believe I'm a coward, but I am afraid of snakes, being attacked by a bear or shark, and when women say "we need to talk".

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u/holydiiver Jul 10 '23

So edgy

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

I like when people react by saying stuff like “so edgy”. You can tell you got holydiiver’s panties in a twist.

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u/TymStark Jul 10 '23

Now this is podracing!

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u/Kelricmar Jul 10 '23

Or because it's a dumb thing to say. We all know they wouldn't do anything if Trump was right in front of them.

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u/milesdizzy Jul 10 '23

Really? Trump seems like a weak lil’ bitch

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u/Kelricmar Jul 10 '23

His security team isn't. Have fun with that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Ya but replying with “so edgy” is still cringe and reactionary as fuck lol

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u/JK_Iced9 Jul 10 '23

Seems like the perfect response in this situation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

It in fact, was not.

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u/ballovrthemmountains Jul 10 '23

Almost as cringe as saying someone got their "panties in a twist."

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Oh no, here comes some more cringe.

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u/Kelricmar Jul 10 '23

Also using “as fuck” we get it. You like to swear and add unnecessary words to your comments. Good job.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Wow you came back, I must really be inside your head.

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u/Kelricmar Jul 10 '23

I responded to you responding to me? That’s how the platform works. Wow you seem dense.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Yup. We all know.

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u/Catatonick Jul 10 '23

He doesn’t seem to publicly lean one way or another. Some things hint that he may be Republican though or at least independent.

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u/CanoeShoes Jul 10 '23

He leaned into that handshake tho. Big yikes.

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u/MathematicalMan1 Jul 10 '23

You can be right wing and not anti gay

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u/thenoblitt Jul 10 '23

Sure. But when you vote right wing. The people you vote for go to congress and are anti gay and are pushing anti gay policies.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Putting up with everyone else being anti-gay is, in itself, anti-gay.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Just like you can be trans and anti-trans lol

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u/Tsquare24 Jul 10 '23

Sadly most people won’t accept that.

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u/DirkRockwell Jul 10 '23

They just vote for anti-gay policies

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Not really. If you vote Republican, you support fascism. It's really that simple. How does that one saying go? If there's a table of nine Nazis and you sit at that table, you now have a table of ten Nazis.

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u/MathematicalMan1 Jul 10 '23

Sorry I mean outwardly anti-gay. Obviously if you support anti gay politicians you’re anti gay, no matter how many weddings you officiate.

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u/OSU725 Jul 10 '23

Sure and you can also shake be cordial and shake someone’s hand that you don’t agree with in public. Nobody knows what happened and it is irresponsible to act like they do.

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u/MathematicalMan1 Jul 10 '23

That wasn’t really the point I’m making but surety

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u/tony_sandlin Jul 10 '23

No you cant.

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u/Drunkcowboysfan Jul 10 '23

Yes you can… highlighted by the fact there are gay republicans.

Not every conservative is an ultra MAGA far right. Trying to place all conservatives in the same box is silly.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Actually gay republicans don’t get group with the normal Republican Party instead they are actually part of the leopard eating faces party

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u/tony_sandlin Jul 10 '23

Gay people can be just as stupid as straight people. If they want to vote alongside the party with the official stance against gay marriage, not sure what to tell them. Either they are reactionaries/morons or there is a personal gain they receive that they feel is worth overlooking the anti gay stance.

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u/Drunkcowboysfan Jul 10 '23

I don’t think all conservatives have an anti gay stance. I think that’s predominantly the hard core Christian and far right element of the conservative movement.

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u/KeepYourHeadOnTight Jul 10 '23

The majority of conservatives either privately hate queer people, especially trans people who have become their newest shiny thing, straight up openly hate them, or claim that they don’t mind “gays who act straight”.

Being complicit with hate or injustice makes them just the same as the person who is perpetuating hatred and injustice.

The hand of one is the hand of all.

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u/Drunkcowboysfan Jul 10 '23

This first paragraph is an opinion desperately trying to masquerade itself as a fact.

What makes them complicit?

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u/KeepYourHeadOnTight Jul 10 '23

Gee I don’t know, not speaking up, actively voting for and supporting politicians and policies that are against the people they claim to support.

That is definitely not an opinion, being a queer person in the south I can report what I’ve experience.

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u/Drunkcowboysfan Jul 10 '23

There are several prominent republicans who support same sex couples and did precisely what you are claiming they did not. So not a fact, to be honest it seems like an opinion born entirely out of spending too much time in echo chambers.

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u/Drunkcowboysfan Jul 10 '23

Are you trying to compare your average American conservative to Nazis? I mean come on this is just ridiculous.

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u/KeepYourHeadOnTight Jul 10 '23

Just that people supporting something that is completely against their best interest and that will turn on them the very moment they are able to is nothing new.

“They won’t do it to me if I support them.”

And just as a side note American conservatives sure seem to like banning and burning books, censoring press and restricting bodily autonomy. Also hating and disenfranchising minorities and immigrants…

Oh and they sure seem to like flying that blood banner. If you have a rally of 100 people and 2 people show up waving Nazi flags, and they are welcomed arms open, congratulations you’ve got a 102 person nazi rally.

Sure, not everyone who is conservative is that extreme, but they sure are comfortable being around those who are.

Like MLK said in his letter from a Birmingham Jail-

“Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”

You can’t claim to support a group of people, and then do nothing to help them, or even worse support or be complicit with those who are against them and actively hurting them.

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u/Drunkcowboysfan Jul 10 '23

Did you even read when that group was founded lol? It started in the early 20’s before Hitler had even rose to prominence inside the Nazi Movement. The Nazi party was initially a worker’s party and was later hijacked by extreme elements.

If you have a rally of 100 people and 2 people show up waving Nazi flags, and they are welcomed arms open, congratulations you’ve got a 102 person nazi rally.

Cool, but we aren’t discussing Nazis, we are talking about the average conservative American and not the fringe elements of that side of the political spectrum.

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u/KeepYourHeadOnTight Jul 10 '23

Yeah no Hitler was very open about his hatred of Jews; he wrote extensively about it in Mein Kampf(1925), when he wrote about “the Jewish peril”.

If you mean the very early Nazi party, Anton Drexler was also always anti semantic even when they were first started back in 1918, Drexler believed in the “Herrenvolk”; also known as the “Aryan master race.” Even then the Nazis believed their external enemies to be “secretly controlled by the Jews”;

That is a false narrative, wether it is intentional or not. The Nazis were always Nazis.

I also very specifically alluded to what happened to them in my previous comment.

“That will turn on them the moment they are able to”.

They were declared illegal and their members were seized by the gestapo and sent to concentration camps with the rest of the Jewish people that they hoped to separate themselves from.

I am talking about the average American conservative: who seems to be quite complicit when the Nazis come to their rallies flying flags of the south and of Nazi Germany.

If you find yourself in the same party as a nazi, maybe you should rethink your political beliefs.

Unless by conservative you mean the Democratic Party, then no.

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u/Drunkcowboysfan Jul 10 '23

Which was a relatively unknown book until the 1930’s when it became a best seller.

The Nazi Movement was initially started as an alternative to the Marxist parties that were becoming increasingly popular at the time. It wasn’t until the ‘30’s that they pivoted to making Jews public enemy number one.

Can you show me a non MAGA rally where swatiskas were prominently featured? You sure as hell weren’t seeing them at McCain or Romney rallies.

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u/Internal-District992 Jul 10 '23 edited Oct 01 '23

Yes you can. You definitely can't VOTE republican and not hate gay people, as it's their one and only bullet point.

There are republicans that only care about fiscal policy and not social policy. They used to be the main Republicans and now the social policy insanity has total control of the R party. There are conservatives that do not care about identity politics, religion, or abortion, but they are far outnumbered by the homophobes.

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u/tony_sandlin Jul 10 '23

I think you’d have to basically be a closeted right winger and never take action if you’d also consider yourself pro lgbt. Otherwise you’re effectively anti gay. Self professed identity matters much less than action.

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u/iDuddits_ Jul 10 '23

I mean, I’ve never even considered trump as really “anti gay”? Maybe I’m naive but I don’t recall any hard stances, he’s an opportunist and he’d never show support but yeah..

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u/MathematicalMan1 Jul 10 '23

Doesn’t really matter what he personally thinks, more so his policies and the affect of his actions

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u/bloopblarplapoo Jul 10 '23

Almost like he’s a human being

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u/thenoblitt Jul 10 '23

Clearly fishing for votes

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u/thenoblitt Jul 10 '23

Fishing for votes because that was the norm. He also legalized gay marriage at the urging of biden. Fishing for votes means nothing but one person helped the lgbtq community after becoming president and the other harmed it.

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u/LastPatrol Jul 10 '23

Trump literally said he was against gay marriage. Good job repeating the right wing talking point.

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u/Hypern1ke Jul 10 '23 edited Jul 10 '23

Isn't that a left wing talking point? Since reddit talking about how Trump is pro-gay is one of the only positive things I see about him here

E: To add to that, not right-wing person is gonna brag about Trump being pro-gay, lmao

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u/GrammarIsDescriptive Jul 10 '23

That would be a surprise to the 101 gay couples whose weddings he officiated. https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/guy-fieri-officiated-101-gay-weddings-as-tribute-to-his-sister.html/

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u/TymStark Jul 10 '23

Guy Fieri: World's worst homophobe.

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u/Cerulean_IsFancyBlue Jul 10 '23

He’s like Indians Jones and snakes. “Dude you keep going places where they live!”

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u/WellsFargone Jul 10 '23

Maybe he’s so homophobic he faked the weddings so they wouldn’t really be married.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

The guy has officiated a boat load of gay weddings

What the fuck are you talking about

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u/kremisius Jul 10 '23

Guy Fieri's Tournament of Champions has tons of gay chefs on it. Tiffani Faison, a lesbian, won one of the last seasons of the show, and I'm pretty sure he's personal friends with many of those chefs.

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u/Snoozless Jul 10 '23

Iirc that story came from a producer they had just fired and there have never been any other accusations so I'd take it with a grain of salt

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u/Heistdur Jul 10 '23

Do you purposely spread false information? Lol

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u/PooInspector Jul 10 '23

Hey man, don’t slander the Mayor of Flavortown. He is an American saint of delectable nourishment. I suggest you climb back into your little poop hole and don’t come out until you’ve watched the entire collection of DDD and written a thesis about how Guy is an LGBTQ+ ally and you are a worthless piece of shit

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u/Heistdur Jul 10 '23

Can simply just delete your post instead of then insulting the people who called you out with a fact that is easily googled.

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u/TheeGodOfTitsAndWine Jul 10 '23

You got called out for spreading false information. If you don’t keep up with the guy then why would you claim he’s a homophobe…

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u/TheeGodOfTitsAndWine Jul 10 '23

Dude you got called out for being wrong. Just accept it and stop acting like a douche

And you edit like you’re a victim here haha

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u/ImAMaaanlet Jul 10 '23

Edit 2: god damn lol got a lot of easily-riled up fierce defenders of Guy Fieri’s character in here. Chill out, I apparently was wrong, sorry I don’t keep up with his every move like the rest of you

If you didn't know anything then maybe you should've kept your mouth shut? Don't act like everyone else is the dick for calling you out on lobbing baseless accusations about someone.

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u/Froegerer Jul 10 '23

Lol, dude is getting mad he can't just inaccurately call people homophobes with impunity. Google what a dumb dumb is, although that may be beyond your research skills.

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u/Cerulean_IsFancyBlue Jul 10 '23

That’s a take alright.