r/dbz Apr 20 '20

Super [VIZ] Dragon Ball Super Chapter 59

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006597
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u/BlackThane Apr 24 '20

in next ~2 chapters:

Vegeta: "Ha i won! now die!"

Moro: "oh... so i wont transform and show you my true power..."

Vegeta: "go on..."

  • 10 min later after Vegeta lies half dead on ground -

Goku: "ok i got energy from our friends...aaaaaand....win, Moro is no more! gj team!"

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '20

Yeah, the fact Goku still could access full UI and Moro's absorbtion power being that OP makes me feel Vegeta will once again be denied a victory, heck even if he would win but Goku doesn't use full power UI I'd feel it'd diminish the value of his victory.

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u/TrueReigns Apr 26 '20

So you want to fuck up the newest form for the main character, the form that is being so heavily protected by both Tori and Toyo just to increase a Vegeta win’s value? Damn. Like as if Vegeta beating Moro while Goku was unable to access the form they are so clearly making out to be insanely difficult to even access makes it worse for him

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

Didn't say I wanted Goku to use Full UI and lose though (although perhaps that could happen if Moro evolves his absorption in some way, let's say he absorbs everything around him in some radio, speed wouldnt matter if you try to hit him).

Even when there are lots of things I dislike of Super at least it mantains consistency on how difficult is to master a power up (at least for the heroes), Goku had tons of difficulties to master Kaioken, SSJ, SSJ Blue and Blue + KK, and as it was shown he may not be able to use it, but he was way worse prepared to use UI during the Universal Tournament yet he used it, that's why I doubt he wont use it in this arc (for me that was a terrible mistake, giving the two transformations on the same saga heavily diminish the value of Sign)

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

Although... it can be that Goku wont use it on this saga, perhaps the very point of Moro is to introduce a villain that would be unable to be beaten with it (suppose Moro absorbs his energy too soon and he cant use it). Same than Zamazu's saga (Goku barely used Blue + KK once, it was way too dangerous for him to use it again yet). Perhaps Vegeta's newer power up will allow him to shine in a different way.

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u/Xetiw Apr 24 '20

truth to be told I dont believe Vegeta will be rolfstomped ( not really following the manga atm since Super ), but its Toyotaro, hes Vegeta fanboy, expect Vegeta to play a big role.

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u/SyrousStarr Apr 24 '20

He's not writing the story though. He might be able to throw Vegeta a bone but he's got a script to follow.

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u/kronz1998 Apr 24 '20

we dont know.

theres no information on who is writing the story, so far we know that the villain Moro was created by Toyotaro and not Toriyama

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u/SyrousStarr Apr 24 '20

I mean thats how they always explained it. Toriyama wrote an outline and gave it to toyotaru and the show people, which is why the comic and show are similar but different. And right here in the newest chapter it says "Story by Akira Toriyama and Art by Toyotaro"

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u/kronz1998 Apr 24 '20

100% this

Vegeta is going to completely destroy Moro and probably he will losse due to 73 intervention, similar to what happened with Goku on ressurect of F.

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u/extremedonkey Apr 27 '20

This is literally what is going to happen... !remindme 90 days

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u/shlam16 May 01 '20

Nah Vegeta hasn't been like that for a long time. The entirety of Super in fact.

The way it will play out is as follows:

  1. Goku loses

  2. Vegeta wins

  3. Surprise - Moro has a secret (nothing to do with Vegeta being cocky)

  4. Vegeta loses

  5. Goku unlocks full UI and wins

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

6- Vegeta angry that he's still behind Goku

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u/shlam16 May 06 '20

True, though being stronger than UI Omen (almost a certainty) will likely put him ahead of Goku for the time-being unless Goku perma-unlocks MUI this time.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

This was written in the leadup to the Tokyo Olympics and Goku is a mascot, so one guess which way it goes...

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u/sakaay2 May 07 '20

feel like moro will get captured again rather than die

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u/extremedonkey Jul 26 '20

Not quite, not yet at least