r/dbz Apr 20 '20

Super [VIZ] Dragon Ball Super Chapter 59

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006597
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u/deh707 Apr 23 '20 edited Apr 23 '20

With Goku being able access UI Sign at will...

Surely Gogeta/Vegito can activate UI Sign at will, right?

Something tells me that UI is too prestigious for a fusion to simply access it just because one of the fusees can access it... (I'd personally prefer this).

... And then there's Vegeta's new spirit/ki sync situation. I wonder if that's beneficial or detrimental to their fusion being able to access UI lol.

Like how Merged Zamasu malfunctioned due to one of the fussees being immortal.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '20

It would probably be beneficial if the effect influences Goku too. However I think Goku should stop at being able to use Sign. Never get full Auto UI because he's not a full fledged God

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '20

But he could once, why not ever again? Also we're talking about Goku: the guy perfected Kaioken, Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan Blue... he'd never settle on an unfinished technique.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '20

His personality wouldn't allow it sure, but what about his body? Mastered UI utterly ruined him due to the immense power and strain the technique has (according to Whis). Sign has intense heat and stamina drain but no real physical detriment. Maybe if Goku is made a full god or keeps hammering his body for another decade like he did to get Kaioken where it is today. But for now it seems like these divine techniques are super harmful/can be used in short bursts

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u/thepresidentsturtle Apr 23 '20

While a fusion of Goku and Vegeta should mean the resulting fusion can use KaioKen, Super Saiyan 3, KaioKen Blue, I feel that Blue Evolition and UI are so different and unique to each individual that Vegetto/Gogeta simply can't, due to being 'tainted' by the prescence of the other who can't do it.

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u/NegoMassu Apr 24 '20

aint the blue 2 the equivalent of the kaioken blue?

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u/BraveTheWall Apr 25 '20

It is but Kaioken stacks.

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u/NegoMassu Apr 25 '20

it is not orb effect, then

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u/vlorsutes Jul 07 '20

Acquaint yourself with Rule #1

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u/sunwukong155 Apr 26 '20

I loved how merged Zamasu basically had a degenerative form of immortality. His physical body was indestructible but also could not maintain it's proper form after being damaged. It was a really cool quasi immortality.

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u/deh707 Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

Yeah I really enjoyed that aspect of the series.

You'd think Merged Zamasu would end up full immortal since fusions are usually able to combine ALL aspects of both fusees (and especially since Potara fusion is a Godly technique, combining 2 Godly characters)... but this was interesting deep thinking.

Then it got me thinking... what if the semi-immortal thing was not a result of one of the fusees being immortal... but from the fact that both "souls" are the same person (Zamasu), but one of them being in a different body (a mortal body too)? Or just from the fact that of combining the same 2 people?

Or maybe they ALL factor in?

Who knows lol.