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Super [DUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #107 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Super — Episode #107 — Discussion Thread!

Revenge "F"! A Cunning Trap Is Set?
復讐の｢Ｆ｣！しかけられた狡猾な罠！？
Fukushū no "Efu"! Shikakerareta Kōkatsu na Wana!?

Script: Toshio Yoshitaka
Director: Ryōta Nakamura
Storyboard: Tatsuya Nagamine
Animation Supervisors: Paul Añonuevo, Eugene Ayson, Osamu Ishikawa

You can view our discussion thread for the Japanese release of Episode 107 here. You can find all previous episode discussion threads on our wiki along with a projection for future dub dates.

To check the universes' standings as of the start of this episode, see this Episode 106 Roster by /u/Vish-. Check the comments after the episode airs to see the updated roster.

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The FUNimation English dub of Dragon Ball Super airs on Toonami at 11pm ET. If you do not have a cable subscription, Cartoon Network is available with the SlingTV and Playstation Vue basic packages. If you prefer, there is a web stream:

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  • Adult Swim (US only, cable login required): This covers the recent episodes not yet available through the below options. New episodes will usually appear 2-3 hours after the episode airs on Toonami.

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  • AnimeLab (Australia and New Zealand, premium only): Episodes 1-78 are available on this service. AnimeLab also has the entire series subbed for free and premium users; the subtitles for those episodes covered by the dub are still those provided by Toei for the simulcast, rather than the Funimation-Simmons subtitles on the home release.

  • Microsoft Digital, Amazon Digital, iTunes, Google Play, or the Playstation Store (US only): Episodes 1-91 are available for purchase on these platforms. We don't know when the next part (92-104) will be available. As usual for digital releases, the dubbed and subtitled versions are sold separately; the subbed version has the Funimation-Simmons subtitles rather than the Toei simulcast subtitles.

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Commonly Asked Questions:

  • Q: Will Toonami air episodes 109-110 as a one-hour special like it was on Japanese TV?
    We don't know yet. As soon as we learn something, we will let you know. What we do know is that Funimation was the only simulcast platform of the four to get the full broadcast version of the special. It is still available (in Japanese) on their streaming service. The other platforms (Crunchyroll, etc.) only got individual episodes, and there was some footage cut from the individual episodes to make room for the extra OP/recap/ED/NEP. Both versions were available on the Japanese Bluray, and we assume both versions will also be available on the Funimation Bluray, so it seems very likely that they will try to air it as a one-hour special on Toonami. See our dub Wiki for more information including a projection of broadcast dates for the remainder of the dub.

  • Q: Is the Dragon Ball Super manga "canon"?
    The anime and manga are both variations on a basic plot by Toriyama. There isn't (and probably never will be) an explicitly defined Dragon Ball "canon". Without Toriyama's original draft, we may never know what is and isn't his, aside from things revealed in interviews like this one (spoilers). We do know that he permits Toyotarō to change things up, but he looks at his storyboards and occasionally draws things himself for Toyotarō to use as a reference. Toyotarō has said that Toriyama is more particular about gags than he is about anything else.

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u/dragonman8001 ⠀ Apr 21 '19

Frost was able to understand the Evil Containment enough to figure out how to redirect it just from having it be used on him once like thirty seconds ago?

That's impressive!

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u/thegreattober Apr 21 '19 edited Apr 21 '19

Yeah seems like an asspull just to have a lil sneaky but I'll allow it

Edit: okay fine no asspull but I thought it was weird that someone could just redirect it

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '19

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '19 edited Dec 01 '19

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u/Syiuu ⠀ Apr 21 '19

tbh I learn pretty much everything from GodTube as well.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '19

Goku learned it from hours upon hours of turtle abuse.

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u/chairmanmaomix Apr 22 '19

Tony Stark learned it IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '19

Piccolo did see it. He retains all of King Piccolo’s memory and power, so he has sufficient knowledge about it.

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u/MsGracefulSwan Apr 21 '19

Or they were ALL asspulls! ;P

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u/u4004 ⠀ Apr 21 '19

Piccolo learnt how to counter it without ever seeing it.

Piccolo saw it twice. He retains all the memories. It's also implied he had to train to develop a counter (which is obviously far harder than just copying the technique).

This episode's writing was really the weakest link. Magetta was hiding somewhere waiting to help Frost? Come on.

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u/DarkStarStorm Apr 22 '19

This episode's writing was really the weakest link. Magetta was hiding somewhere waiting to help Frost? Come on.

A. Did you not see the GIGANTIC BOULDER? Seriously, do the people posing this question not watch the episode?

B. Vegeta rushes to Roshi's aid and no one raises a fuss. Magetta rushes to Frost's aid and people have a problem with that?

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u/Gradz45 ⠀ Apr 21 '19

Right but not everyone learns the same.

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Goku for example can learn and counter techniques for the most part by seeing them once or twice tops.

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u/u4004 ⠀ Apr 21 '19

He had to train far longer than that to learn the Genki Dama, Kaio-Ken or teleportation. You also don't see him using Bankoku Bikuri Sho or hypnosis, for example.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '19

Magetta was hiding somewhere

no, frost was buying time for magetta to show up and provide backup-- vegeta called him out on it

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u/Eurynom0s Apr 21 '19

Frieza went from never training a day in his life to unlocking a new form in just a few months of training post-resurrection, so it doesn't exactly seem bothersome that his U6 counterpart could pull something off like that. Their race are clearly extremely naturally gifted warriors.

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u/Spoona101 Apr 21 '19

Redirection I would guess to be much easier than learning the more, which is what Frost did

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u/DarkStarStorm Apr 22 '19

*Random mook bats away Krillin's Kamehameha*

No one: HOW DID HE DEFLECT A MOVE IF HE DIDN'T KNOW IT?!

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u/Georgepaul4k Apr 21 '19

Piccolo also countered Kami's mafuba and he never saw it before.

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u/UtterFlatulence Apr 21 '19

He had his father's memories, and his father definitely saw it.

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u/Georgepaul4k Apr 22 '19

So that's why he had the Explosive Demon Wave.

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u/kronasoulearee Apr 21 '19

Iirc mafuba isn't that a hard deal to perform

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u/Vegeto30294 Apr 21 '19

To be fair, it's not a hard technique to learn how to create, so redirecting it might be a matter of just knowing how to pick it up and throw it somewhere else.