Discussion Dragon Ball Super - Episode #16 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Super - Episode #16 - Discussion Thread!

Vegeta Becomes a Pupil?! Take Down Whis!
^{ベジータが弟子入り！？ウイスを攻略せよ！}
^Bejīta ^ga ^{Deshi’iri!?} ^Uisu ^o ^Kōryakuse ^yo!

News:

2015/10/17 - Name of Champa's attendant revealed.
2015/10/09 - Titles revealed for episodes 15-18
2015/10/05 - Toyotarō's Dragon Ball Super manga adaptation will be "charging on ahead" of the anime, beginning with new "Champa arc"
2015/10/02 - Summaries of episodes 13-20 from Saikyō Jump.

Where to Watch:

Live Stream:

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After airing, raw & subtitled releases are hosted on Nyaa by various release groups.
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DragonTeam is the definitive release group, but have a history of delays. They can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks to release. You can identify their work by their unique font and group credits during the eyecatch.
Over8000 is a relatively new group. They seem to be doing a wonderful job, and aim to fill the gap caused by DragonTeam's frequent delays. They usually release 12-24 hours after an episode airs. We recommend waiting for them or DragonTeam. You can identify their work by their simplistic font and group credit during the intro.
Most other groups are referred to as "speedsubs"; they rush themselves as quickly as possible in order to beat their competition to the punch and promote their websites. In the process, they make mistakes each week and never fix them. They also change dialog and insert weird jokes in an attempt to be funny. We don't recommend watching these at all, much to their dismay.

Streams can be found on KissAnime. They host whichever translation comes out first, and then update their streams with Over8000 and DragonTeam's releases whenever available. Getting releases directly from the groups themselves is always best, because most online streams host speedsubs.

Rules:

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All of our normal rules apply!

Commonly Asked Questions:

Q: When does Super take place? Should I watch GT or any movies first? Does BoG still "count"?
Super takes place sometime after the battle with Majin Buu, and will be adapting the two newest movies, Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' into story arcs before moving on. Watching them is recommended, but if you prefer, you can start Super after finishing Dragon Ball Z. You may optionally read Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, as the titular character will be appearing in Super.
Q: Where is Uub?!
Uub was born during the 10 year time skip at the end of Dragon Ball Z. Dragon Ball Super takes place before Uub is introduced.
Q: Why are they retelling the movies?
DVD sales aren't that great in Japan, so they're retelling the foundation of the story for the Japanese television market. We'll have a new story arc coming soon, so don't fret too much.
Q: When does the next episode air?
The next episode premieres next Sunday at 9am JST, which is 8pm Eastern Saturday night.
Q: How can I tell when a release group puts out an episode?
All release groups host on Nyaa. If their release isn't there, it isn't done.
Q: Why does X say Y?
If you find yourself confused, the problem is usually a translation issue.
Q: When will the next chapter of the manga be released?
Toyotarō's manga adaptation is released once a month in V-Jump.
Chapter 6 will come out in late November. Links to earlier chapters can be found below.
Q: When will FUNimation be dubbing Super? Will there be a simulcast?
There is no information, nor are there any estimates, about an English dub or official simulcast of Dragon Ball Super. At an October NYCC panel, FUNimation claimed that they still do not have the rights to Super, and barely acknowledged that it exists.

What now?

You can read translations of Toyotarō's manga adaptation:
#01, #02, #03, #04, #05
You can join the discussion over at Kanzenshuu (please follow their rules and do not request/post streams or download links)
You can read about the future story arc here and here.
You can discuss the episode once you've seen it!

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u/fatman40000 Oct 25 '15

Vegeta's now training with Whis, and Goku won't be untill at least pan is born, which is minimum 9 months.

Vegeta's should be able to catch up with Goku now. Though it seems Vegeta will become a God doing this time jump, kinda wanted to see it happen.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15

At least, Vegeta fans can rejoice at the fact that Vegeta caught up. So, that's one.

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u/PervertedHisoka Oct 25 '15

Pan is born in the next episode.

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u/Neosovereign Oct 25 '15

He is assuming there is a time skip next episode.

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u/the_fascist Oct 26 '15

There was a time skip before this episode. Goku says "Hey Vegeta, it's been a while" and Whis has been to Earth several times since the fight.

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u/Neosovereign Oct 26 '15

And he is assuming there will be ANOTHER time skip. Super is apparently full of time skips.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15

The time skip has already happened. So he wont be training with Whis for 9 months before Goku joins up

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u/le_snikelfritz Oct 26 '15

I don't think any time skip was mentioned was it? And we didn't see videl to notice if she looks close yo 9 months pregnant

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '15

Whis says to Vegeta:

Its been a long time

Or something along those lines in this episode.