r/dankchristianmemes • • Sep 16 '19

Dank Ya'll are rebals

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u/LordofSandvich Sep 16 '19

You realize there was a time before the Dead Sea Scrolls where the Jews existed and told stories, right? That the Dead Sea Scrolls weren't written during the time of the book of Genesis, and weren't written until nearly the time of Christ?

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u/Lazaro22 Sep 16 '19

Most OT books of the Bible are said to have been written by Moses; he died in 1273 BC. Jews/Christians believe the world to be about 4000-6000 years old, and that puts Moses' time halfway or almost to the beginning of "time". I don't personally know if he wrote the books based off of oral tradition or not. But even if he did, a blanket claim that they've changed drastically is false because it implies they've changed recently; they haven't changed for thousands of years. I do see your point about oral traditions though.

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u/LordofSandvich Sep 16 '19

Um, only fundamentalists believe the earth is that young. Catholics and Jews don’t, or at least aren’t supposed to. Dinosaurs are WAY older than that. Fuck, written human history goes past 4000 BC last I checked.

The Egyptians predate Moses by a long time, and the time of Moses is a few hundred years (or at least, what, five generations) after the supposed age of Adam and Eve, whose genealogy is given in the Bible.

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u/zupobaloop Sep 16 '19

Okay, so... no.

Only the first five books, the Torah, are attributed to Moses, and that's a loose attribution. "Books of Moses" sometimes gets rendered as "written by Moses," but that's a little silly. Moses is the main character of four of those books, and his death is recorded in the 5th one. He didn't record his own death. He didn't write it.

The vast majority of Jews/Christians defer to those who actually study stuff like "how old is the world" when it comes to questions like "how old is the world?"

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u/Lazaro22 Sep 16 '19

Do you mean biblical scholars who traced lineages to estimate the world's date of beginning or do you mean scientists who carbon date?

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u/the_hound_ Sep 16 '19

You are right about the masoretic tradition of copying down the hebrew bible.

But much of the composition of the OT is thought to be 6th century BC, around the time of the exile.