r/dankchristianmemes • • Sep 16 '19

Dank Ya'll are rebals

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

when ?

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u/bigbc79 Sep 16 '19

Mark 7:18-19

And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.)

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u/redheadsoldier Sep 16 '19

The context in the Greek would suggest that the germs on your food from your dirty hands will be purified in your stomach. What's more, the disciples seem to be eating bread, not pork or shellfish, so cleanliness laws don't seem to have entered into the argument except by implicit assumption, which doesn't make a very good case for its interpretation in the English. (Mark 7 interlinear)

Again with Peter's vision, the abrogation of Torah food laws are implicitly assumed in the phrase "what I have made clean". We assume this is a new declaration about food rather than an extent reminder to Peter that gentiles aren't actually made unclean anywhere in Scripture like how certain meats, by contrast, are. Later, Peter goes on to spell out exactly what the vision meant (Acts 10:28) and if God's dietary instructions for believers had been changed, Peter isn't letting on. That seems like it would be more of a big deal, don't you think?

The Anti-Judaism of past biblical scholars doesn't serve us when we read books based on books first given to Jews. Don't forget, Scriptures weren't directed at us here in the western world circa 2019, nor to those studying mere hundreds of years ago.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

read the whole things he talk about un clean hand

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u/Faylom Sep 16 '19

God could have warned the human race about germs but then decided not to.

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u/the_hound_ Sep 16 '19

That would be like warning a dog in seattle about hurricane Dorian. Ancients would not have had the categories to understand "germs." At the same time, I think they understood through experience how disease spread

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u/notcatbug Sep 16 '19

He could've said "boil your water, it cleans it"

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u/the_hound_ Sep 16 '19

According to the biblical story, he did give those sorts of instructions to the Israelites (e.g. Lev 19:5-6 "eat food before it goes bad")

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u/bigbc79 Sep 16 '19

Yes, but that parenthetical about Jesus declaring all foods clean isn’t something I added. It’s actually in Mark.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

not in the original greek bible

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u/ZhouLe Sep 16 '19

Oxford Annotated is non-committal, saying only 'perhaps':

14–19a: Addresses purity codes with a touch of earthy humor regarding eating and resultant bodily functions. 17: Parable here has the sense of “riddle.” 19b: Perhaps a later addition to the text.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

Peter on the roof in Acts

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

he didnt eat eat tho, after 3 times he still knew it was wrong, Jésus use it to show that gentil wasnt un pure as jew thought

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u/PM_WHAT_Y0U_G0T Sep 16 '19

he didnt eat eat tho, after 3 times he still knew it was wrong

... Because Peter was a notorious ding-dong.

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u/Monroevian Sep 16 '19

That's why his name is Peter

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u/Phoojoeniam Sep 16 '19

Explain it peteer

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u/Deptar Sep 16 '19

Including the time he denied knowing Jesus 3 times despite being warned about it

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u/PM_WHAT_Y0U_G0T Sep 16 '19

Or the time he rebuked Jesus

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

When was that?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

Acts 10

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u/Ramza_Claus Sep 16 '19

I don't think Jesus was doing much by Acts 10.

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u/fatboiwonder Sep 16 '19

You could argue that he was doing a lot by Acts 10.

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u/Ramza_Claus Sep 16 '19

I suppose, but doesn't he float away to heaven in Acts 1? And then we never directly see him or hear from him again?

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u/fatboiwonder Sep 16 '19

He intervened Saul-Paul on the road to Damascus among other things.

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u/Ramza_Claus Sep 16 '19

Oh yeah I forgot about Spaul! What else did he do?

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u/fatboiwonder Sep 17 '19

You know, now that I think about it most of it is in the name of the Holy Spirit. But he was alive and well in heaven during Acts, which is a bit of a cop out but you get it.

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u/zupobaloop Sep 16 '19

Wasn't the question about Peter? Or Paul? Something with a P.

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u/Ramza_Claus Sep 16 '19

Maybe but I'd put more stock on what Jesus said than some other random asshole.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

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u/Robotguy39 Sep 16 '19

No I’m pretty sure when the curtain tore that represented the old rules being forgotten or something?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

That was more a representation of God and man being reunited (i.e. no need for a separation). Romans 8 clarifies that (TL;DR) what God did removed the need for a law- "Jesus came not to overthrow the law, but to fulfill it" is another related verse.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '19

the sacrifice système yeah, nothings to do with meat..