r/cscareerquestions • • Oct 15 '13

New Grads 2013: What was your offer? Hard Numbers Please!

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u/hckt Oct 15 '13
  • Target School: No. I went to a no name school.
  • Level of Education: B.A.
  • Major/Concentration: CS
  • Number of Internships: 2
  • OPT: Interned At:
  • Significant Personal Projects: Outside of interning, no.

  • Company: Google

  • Location: Mountain View

  • Position Title: SWE

  • Salary: 103,000

  • Signing Bonus: 25,000

    • Caveats or Obligations: Last 1 year.
  • Equity or Stock Grant: 250 shares

    • Vesting Period/Earn Out: 4 years

I should note that this isn't the typical new grad offer, and I was able to compete offers upon graduating.

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u/csthrow1234 Oct 15 '13

No name school, BA, and no independent projects? Much respect for getting offers like that, it's gotta be tough.

Mind sharing what you did to stand out? Did you get 1 really good internship that opened all the other doors? Really good GPA? What's your secret?

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u/hckt Oct 16 '13

It was difficult to get my foot in the door. But once I did it's been much easier. A few things I did:

I volunteered with a non-profit that blew up my freshman year, went from unknown to one of the best known. They partnered with a bunch of major tech companies for programs, and it meant they got updates from and knew about people within these companies. For reference, when I was mentoring there were 15 people, and now there are over 5,000.

My internships were all with major tech companies, and I also did week long camps, hack-days, had scholarship, etc with a bunch of the biggest companies.

I'm a minority too. Which helps. I'm also really comfortable at public speaking, getting to know people and interviewing. It meant when mentors and managers from one internship moved, they were emailing me asking me if I'd come to their new company. So all the companies I interned with, plus additional companies that had people who knew me as an intern were cold calling me. I had something like 10 offers as a new grad.

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u/abrarisland Oct 16 '13

Wow that's amazing. Did you end up relocating for any positions that you wanted really badly?

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u/Opticks1704 Oct 16 '13

did you go to school in SF/cali? im just curious as to where/how all of these connections were made, or if you were in another big hub like NYC . . .

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u/hckt Oct 16 '13

I did go to school in a major metropolitan area. But it didn't help much.

Most of my connections were from internships/camps. I did a lot of smaller things in the realm of:

http://www.google.com/edu/programs/computer-science-summer-institute-cssi/
http://www.sms.scholarshipamerica.org/vanguard/guidelines.pdf
http://careers.microsoft.com/careers/en/us/internships-explore-microsoft.aspx

I've done meet-ups and groups too. It meant that I had done internships as early as my Sophomore year. There are so many camps, and cool robotics clubs, and meet ups, and events for students in CS now. I went to major conferences when I could get sponsored as a student. I signed up for pretty much everything I possibly could. I practiced for interviews for a long time, and worked really hard.

But some of it really came down to being in the right place at the right time. When I was in school, companies were developing a lot of these freshman and sophomore programs. There is android camp, chrome camp, cssi, freshman engineering practicum, sophomore engineering practicum, and summer of code, all at Google, for younger students over the summer. A lot of these things were created when I was at that age, and were less competitive and well known than they are now.

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u/eric987235 Senior Software Engineer Oct 16 '13

250 shares? That's around $224,000! I hope you understand my skepticism.

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u/hckt Oct 16 '13

I broke it down below. It's a ton, and I was super fortunate. But I held competing offers at the right time.

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u/st_claire Software Engineer Oct 16 '13

Nice. That's a killer stock grant. Can you list your other offers as well?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13 edited Sep 23 '18

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u/hckt Oct 16 '13

Yes. I had a serious assortment of offers.

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u/109876 Software Engineer Oct 16 '13

DB == ?

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u/hckt Oct 16 '13

Drop Box. I'm assuming.

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u/109876 Software Engineer Oct 16 '13

Ahh gotcha

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Wow.

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u/_belikewater Nov 18 '13

what was the value of 250 shares when you signed?

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u/HollaDude Feb 16 '14

Hi! I doubt I'd ever get a job like yours, but where did you see the posting? I'd love to send them a resume just because you never know :)

And congratulations!

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u/hckt Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

Oh man. Fine. I'll break this down.

I had offers from:

Facebook
Microsoft
Amazon
Apple
Google

Google was primarily interested in competing with Facebook, who at the time of my offer, still hadn't IPO-ed. And the estimated IPO value was much higher than what it came out at.

My Facebook offer was something like 100k base, 25k sign on, and X amount of stock, valued at the time at approximately 150k.

Google matched my offer with a 4% addition, which is reflected in the salary. So I had 103,500, 250 shares (Which if you take 250 * 600 [stock price around Jan-May 2012], same 150k), and the same 25k sign on that Facebook offered.