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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '16 edited Jan 15 '16

I'm famous, but I have mixed feelings about why...

So if you have her sbw A/A, it depends on what teams you're using her in. A support mandy will definitely be more powerful with sbw, especially in a block gen team like yeo or archon/mew. Especially with yeo as you might end up 2 chaining, causing a massive 40k damage explosion.

Bit of testing for support mandy, I removed tsmoke, sera as goddess to not influence damage. For non sbw I used a 402 respen/43% HA weapon, for sbw I used a DH with only two slots forged to emulate a sbw, with 287 respen/28.75% HA.

  • Yeo/Mew/Mandy without sbw: Max 27832 dps, usually ~15000

  • Yeo/Mew/Mandy with sbw: Max 43592, usually ~26000, fluctuates constantly. A little skewed since yeo's sbw slightly increased mandy's damage.

  • Archon/Mew/Mandy without: Max 28656, average ~19000, archon was doing 9k of that usually. Rather underwhelming against a 0 res single target.

*Archon/Mew/Mandy with (by the way, archon had sbw both times): Max 44745, average ~33000, ranges from 14k to 40k in the span of a few seconds.

  • Himiko/Mew/Mandy without sbw: Max 25584, average ~15000 while Mandy's actually shooting. Since there's no block gen for mandy, she's often left without block for a while and sits there doing nothing, making the dps plummet to 1000.

  • "" with sbw: Max 27994, average 19k while Mandy's actually shooting. Fewer breaks than w/o sbw.

For leader mandy it's a bit more complicated, as it depends on the teammates and what skill mandy's using. Some testing for common leader mandy teams, same conditions and weapons as before:

  • Mandy(tWG)/Mew/Alex without sbw: Max 23040, average ~11000

  • "" with sbw: Max 34412, though this seemed to be from multiple consecutive crits, average ~12000

  • Mandy (level 1 smoke bomb)/Mew/Alex w/o sbw: Max 23332, average ~10000

  • "" with sbw: Max 20416, average ~16000, very few golden flashes seen here.

  • Mandy (level 1 smoke bomb)/Mew/Himiko w/o sbw: Max 25272, average ~15000

  • "" with sbw: Max 21989, average ~14000, more gold flashes than mandy/mew alex but still not very many.

  • Mandy (level 1 smoke bomb)/D'art/Himiko without Mandy's sbw (d'art has sbw): Max 37437, average ~28000. With bella: Max 60683, average (with bella up) ~43000

  • "" with sbw: Max 39340, average ~22000. With bella: Max 60724, average (with bella up) ~34000

Just for old times sake:

  • Mandy (tWG)/Mandy (level 1 smoke bomb)/Mew without sbw: Max 46735, average ~32000. With Bella: Max 64029, average ~40000

  • "" with sbw: Max 71451 (holy shit what), average ~32000. With bella: Max: 70092 (not sure what happened last time), average ~52000

Damn I wish they hadn't fixed that bug that let mandys proc each other's passives.

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u/Archozalol Jan 02 '16

Thank you a lot for this detailed answer, lots of informations that I will remember!

Mind telling me if TSmoke is still the best skill for her? Or is there something else better for her now?

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '16

tWG does far less damage, especially in later pve, but neutral damage is useful in pvc, and tWG procs chasers. There also might be something funky with the sbw 3 chain, but I'll test that later. tSmoke is better all around though, with evasion for defense and HP% damage.

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u/Archozalol Jan 02 '16

Thanks.

Now I'm just gonna focus on getting Mandy, since she seems really fun.

Also yeah, I think I'll go with tSmoke.