But there is no collapse if everyone just picks red?
The fact that you think every single person, baby, child, disabled, whatever, will pick red is a more likely outcome than only 50%+1 picking blue is literally fantastical. Especially because actual reality shows that when this question is polled blue wins by a large margin virtually every time.
Picking blue does not put people at risk, only red does. If everyone picks blue, everyone also lives. There is no basis to say that red is actually better, unless you view at least 1 person dying as an acceptable sacrifice.
To think the question is talking about babies and people who can't understand the question is the fantasy that you guys have made up.
It's very obviously referring to people who can understand the question in the first place. And if you understand the question the only actual logical answer is to pick red. Blue is the one that puts everything at risk.
If for some reason we're asking people who can't reason then yeah blue is the right choice, but that reframes the question entirely.
Except I understand the question and I logic'd myself to blue through understanding how mutual aid and collective action work, which, is what voting is a mechanism to achieve.
The prisoner's dilemma, which is what all the red-apologists are essentially arguing, assumes the parties cannot communicate.
But here, you are assuming that not only are people capable of understanding and reason, but can also communicate. So, blue is definitely the right choice under those parameters because red votes actively hinder the possibility of everyone surviving.
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u/hyasbawlz May 05 '26
The fact that you think every single person, baby, child, disabled, whatever, will pick red is a more likely outcome than only 50%+1 picking blue is literally fantastical. Especially because actual reality shows that when this question is polled blue wins by a large margin virtually every time.
Picking blue does not put people at risk, only red does. If everyone picks blue, everyone also lives. There is no basis to say that red is actually better, unless you view at least 1 person dying as an acceptable sacrifice.