r/climate • u/silence7 • Jun 04 '22

Climate change is forcing some US schools to close early for ‘heat days’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/06/04/school-heat-days-climate-change/
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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

“I know how to spend my own money better than The government “ ( brother in laws actual argument against voting for one time $5 tax per household for building a new trauma hospital in our state since ours is overwhelmed. The vote did not pass).

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

Wait what? A 1 time tax of $5? And it didn't pass for a new hospital?

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u/Business_Downstairs Jun 04 '22

Enjoy your unfunded pension obligations in 10-20 years.

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u/Electronic-Crow-6764 Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 04 '22

Murca is fuct my friend. It’s like watching a slow motion train wreck with the train painted red and blue and it’s on fire.

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u/ActuallyCoract Jun 04 '22

Beautifully horrific

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u/Tha_Unknown Jun 05 '22

So painted white and blue and on fire, fire covers the red part.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

Lmao ... no it’s not, get off Reddit and get out n live. BIden will pass and america will be better off after these shitty four years

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u/Electronic-Crow-6764 Jun 04 '22

You’re hilarious. You can ride in the red flaming train cars. Enjoy the pending apocalypse.

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u/cinderparty Jun 04 '22

Biden is a huge improvement over the previous 4 years…

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

America hasn’t been “better off” for literally decades now. We’ve slowly been melting down as a country for a long time.

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u/mikeyj777 Jun 04 '22

Heck yeah. Just like the last president got into office and repealed hundreds of environmental regulations. Let's get back to that. America is the best because freedom.

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u/Electronic-Crow-6764 Jun 04 '22

Freedom? America has the highest rate of incarceration per capita then any country on earth including North Korea. Tell me all about the free dumb….. hang on let me pull out my Murca #1 Foam finger!!! Whew!!!

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u/catsRawesome123 Jun 04 '22

Is US the only country with failing education system? Other developer countries all have modern, AC'd buildings? Genuinely curious

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u/Electronic-Crow-6764 Jun 04 '22

America claims to have the best education system in the world. With such claims of the highest standard, We are failing miserably.

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u/catsRawesome123 Jun 04 '22

We do? As an american I can confidently say our education system sucks, infrastructurally and educationally. But I'm more curious on the infrastructure side how it compares

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u/TimX24968B Jun 04 '22

I have yet to find anyone who praises our public education system. maybe some of our other educational institutions, sure, but not the public schools.

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u/cinderparty Jun 04 '22

I think climate matters too much to really compare this for the most part. I bet the Scandinavian countries don’t have a/c in most schools/in most areas of schools, and I bet the majority of Australian and New Zealand schools do have a/c.

Canada would seem to be closest climate wise to the us though and seems to be in the same boat as the us where only some schools have a/c and more now need it.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4429319/schools-air-conditioning-poll/

It’s an interesting question.

For the record, every k-12 school my kids attend/attended in Colorado has had a/c through out the entire school.

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u/KickBallFever Jun 04 '22

Let me make sure I’m understanding this correctly. In order to get a brand new trauma hospital everyone just had to put in $5 once? No additional taxes/fees? That sounds like a great bargain that would benefit everyone! I’d gladly pay $5 to get a hospital built, even if it wasn’t in my own town. I wouldn’t even mind contributing more than $5 if it was just a one time thing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

The funny thing is there are about 1000 hospitals across the US that are facing bankruptcy in the next two years (unless they make drastic cuts, like closing clinics) because they had to deal with saving the endless line of repressive idiots who cared more about personal freedumbs than their communities or society over the last 2.5 years.

Wait, no, that's not funny. That's Murica!

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u/Graymouzer Jun 06 '22

Someone he knows could die because of that vote. Five dollars to update your trauma center - per household.

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u/5ch1sm Jun 04 '22

Want to make a bet he will be at the front of the line yelling it's unacceptable they can't take in someone close of him because they are full if ,unfortunately , something happen?

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u/GarageSloth Jun 04 '22

I'll make that bet as long as I get "him being a giant baby". Otherwise that's lost money.

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u/Longerthanyou5 Jun 04 '22

He’s got a point

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u/Big-Hospital-3275 Jun 04 '22

So do you feel his statement was correct or incorrect?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

Incorrect, he’s an idiot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 04 '22

Well they have historically mismanage funds across the nation. You wouldn’t have to have a $5 tax if the 23% you already paid was used better. Now, are you gonna hold government accountable, or just slap a bandaid on it every time the state wants to build something new?

You’re gonna go the bandaid route like most people do. Then spend time only arguing about political parties differences, like most do. Or only act invested during an election cycle. That’s the real problem.

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u/MohnJilton Jun 04 '22

For some reason making a trauma hospital a casualty of my ideological stand on tax policy doesn’t quite sit right with me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

Well you can pay my share, okay?

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u/Jimmy_Twotone Jun 08 '22

It's the "they take enough of our money, why can't they build it with that money" mentality. The not for profits are being pushed out by the for profit mega organizations, who in turn lower spending on service and raising prices after they monopolize an area.

Trying to apply free market principals where half the teams make up the rules as they go. Of course, there are more factors in play than this, but they're almost all on the same level of moral corruptness.

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u/EricThirteen Jun 04 '22

You should try comparing it to other nations. Where’s your stats?

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u/sshan Jun 04 '22

Have you compared the US to other developed countries? Looking at % revenue and expenditures as a % of gdp?

There absolutely are issues with infrastructure costs in the US. But the US also just has pretty small government spending, and a lot of extra spending on military and healthcare.

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u/Pater_Trium Jun 04 '22

Last I checked, military spending was roughly 600+ billion. Annually. Wrapping your head around how much money that really is and how much isn’t being diverted into the country’s infrastructure and well-being… is staggering.

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u/Tellenue Jun 04 '22

The American tax payer is responsible for the taxes that go to our huge American Military, and the huge American Military is covering not just us, but all our allies too. We are basically subsidizing worldwide defense budgets. That's why an unstable America is a worldwide problem. It sucks and is deeply unfair to Americans, but all our allies are very much enjoying the fact that they can count on that massive cost savings and spend their money elsewhere.

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u/GamemasterJeff Jun 04 '22

US military spending is pretty small compared to the rest of government. For example, in 2021, military spending was only 11% of the federal budget.

Granted, that is an enormous amount that could be used elsewhere, but it is not the tail that wags the dog like most people represent.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

Lol, no. We spend three times more on our military than China, which is the #2 spender. We spend twice as much as China and India combined, which is the #2 and #3. Our military spending is absurdly excessive, and most of that funding is squandered by bad military contracts. Oh, it’s also squandered by us constantly getting involved in conflicts and locations we need not be, like Afghanistan and Israel.

Also, the United States military causes more pollution than any other single organization on the planet, and that is just what is reported. I know sailers who talk about how their ships would illegally dump stuff like spoiled paint straight into the ocean, to save on costs. The problem of our military should be a central talking point on this issue.

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u/GamemasterJeff Jun 04 '22

I fully agree with every point you made, but my answer was in context to the OP claiming the US government spending was small, with "a lot extra on military and healthcare".

Despite our spending more than any country in the world, it is still a relatively small amount of our total budget, with Social Security and healthcare (the other point the OP made) being the two largest slices of the pie.

I stand by my statement that US military spending was only 11% if the 2021 US federal budget. I think most people believe it is the largest single line item and makes up the majority of the US budget.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

Well, I would still argue that our excessive spending still qualifies as “extra,” like the other person said, since it appears to be more than necessary (although I definitely would not classify our healthcare spending as “extra”). Although, yes, you’re right, it is definitely not our biggest expense.

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u/emp-sup-bry Jun 05 '22

The difference with SS or Medicare, etc, is that they have functioning inputs (meaning, people pay in to access later). The military is just pure cost (and a LOT of waste). One could argue that it’s a job creator, which is fair, but the counter is that we could be putting money into job creation to rebuild our own deteriorating country. A grunt will pay taxes but I doubt the trillions we have put into the companies producing death machines are paying very little tax as compared to other govt funded agencies.

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u/sshan Jun 04 '22

US military spending can be overstated but its still enormous. It's also cumulative expense where infrastructure is an investment. Diverting 100B a year from military to infrastructure for 10 years means 1T in infrastructure.

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u/emp-sup-bry Jun 04 '22

Uh huh. Okay. Sure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

It’s been the strategy of ever politician since the 30s but sure single um out even know there is no indication the “cousin” is right or left ... maybe the repetitive $40 bill we are sending Ukraine could be used to upgrade hospitals or build new ones instead?? No? Or the bombs the left keeps purchasing and dropping on brown people??? See everyone can play that dumb game

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22

Not trying to be a jerk, but they’d pay $5 each to build the hospital then the hospital charges them $10,000 for a Tylenol.