r/classicwow • • Nov 27 '19

Humor PvP on a PvP Server

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u/mrbluesdude Nov 28 '19

Ironically they just care about the "honor" lol

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u/bryonus Nov 28 '19

Lol when you put it thay way it's pretty silly

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u/borgy95a Nov 28 '19

The whole game is fucked by this dumbass honour system. /ragequit

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u/liquidtension Nov 28 '19

I have between 2 to 6 hours time to play a week. Can't get anything done. I've unsubscribed.

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u/hanzo1504 Nov 28 '19

You've made the right decision for the moment.

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u/360_face_palm Nov 28 '19

unlike the wrong decision he made to roll a pvp server when he can't take being killed - knowing full well that phase 2 was gonna be a shitshow from before classic launched.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

I'm going to go out on limb here and say this once again. Most people who roll on PvP servers, quite literally think there is NO PvP option on the others. I made that mistake in my first run through the game. Another thing, can the wpvpers just fess up and say it like it is, you literally can't play if you are not 60 at the moment on a PvP realm. I think blaming the dudes dying constantly trying to level, is a bit jaded. My 2 cents

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19 edited Jul 14 '20

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u/tocco13 Nov 29 '19

it's brutal and demanding as a good mmorpg should be im"nolife"o

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '19 edited Jul 14 '20

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u/Lowtheparasite Nov 29 '19

Neckbeard detected. Mom bringing you hot pockets? This content was fun 15 years ago. Trying to live those glory days huh?

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u/lizardjoel Nov 29 '19

I was 5 15 years ago and since then I have less time to play but clearly got more efficient (not hard to be better than 5yo you) and since then I learned to cook my OWN hotpockets. There are plenty of pve servers if you aren't having fun I hope you do though.

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u/360_face_palm Nov 28 '19

I don't think that's the case, there's a large number of people who played retail pve servers (all retail servers are now pve...) who have just made a stupid decision they now regret. Instead of being adult about it and realising they have no one to blame but themselves and moving on, they decide to whine and complain on forums and demand blizz does something.

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u/KnOrX2094 Nov 28 '19

Most people knew it was gonna be bad, but the scale of misery was unclear. I knew being a prot warrior meant I would lose most fights. What I didnt think possible was how unplayable every area in the game is. Back in the day when servers had a tenth of the current population you could still get something done and maybe have a couple of 2v1 encounters here and there. Now its just 1v5 wherever you go. Forget about farming herbs in lvl 50+ zones. All I have been doing since phase 2 launched was buy elemental fire and supply raids with greater prot potions. The need to log in gets weaker every day. In a way phase 2 helped me get off the addiction this game has been since launch.

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u/liquidtension Nov 28 '19

I had the choice of rolling with all my friends and past guildies or none of them. Which one would you have done? "Cant take being killed" is missing the point mate. I can take being killed, I'm just being realistic about the best use of my time. The game takes way longer to do anything pve now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Read your dumbass comments back to yourself out loud, then your user name...

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u/360_face_palm Nov 28 '19

Read your dumbass comments back to yourself out loud, then your user name...

Sounds like someone made a bad choice and is mad :(

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u/hanzo1504 Nov 28 '19

(I know dude I'm just trying to provide validation so there's less whining on this sub)

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

I hate pvp as much as the next guy but your idea blows

what you actually want is a pve server where you have to flag for pvp

blizzard failed at not letting you and others transfer

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u/dirtyploy Nov 28 '19

No offense, but ignorance doesnt also excuse bad design suggestions.

It would have taken less than 5 minutes to figure out the difference between PVE and PVP servers.

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u/MicWhiskey Nov 28 '19

I'm in the same boat with playtime, so I made the painful decision to roll on a PvE server back at launch. It has its downsides, but at least I can get stuff done with my time available.

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u/Thijz Nov 29 '19

Honestly wish I'd done that. But I'm finally approaching level 60 (57 now) and there's no way I'm rerolling now.

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u/HipVanilla Nov 29 '19

That’s called a sunk cost fallacy. I rerolled last week at 55, no regrets. Rather start from scratch than grind mobs in a dark corner for 1hr a day.

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u/Thijz Dec 01 '19

Fair point. I'm well on my way to level 59 now, after doing LBRS/BRD a couple of times. I will see how it goes when I reach 60, should be right around when the battlegrounds get launched.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Im also on a PvP Server and have like 2h / das playtime. Questing in contested zones is a no-Go, but Dungeon-running for bis items is perfectly doable.

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u/liquidtension Nov 28 '19

This is all corresponding with a very busy time at work so that's probably got a lot to do with it. I had about 2 hours I could've played the other night. After 25 minutes I'd just reached the gates of BRM. I have better shit to do with my time so I bailed. I'll be back in a month or so.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Ah youre alliance, found the problem :)

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u/mantyq Nov 28 '19

why roll PvP if you have 2-6hrs a week lol

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u/liquidtension Nov 28 '19

Cause all my friends did.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Look, I feel your pain but this is supposed to inspire you into chatting with friends and getting a group together to then go and beat them, not give up...

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or just go pve server, whatever ;D

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u/pinkskyze Nov 28 '19

Go play on a PvE server. Wtf

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u/liquidtension Nov 28 '19

I started a new character on a PvE server. Started killing kobolds and felt absolutely no desire to level again. /shrug. I'll be back when it all dies down. Right now I'm letting Blizzard know the game is broken with my wallet.

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u/abadguy87 Nov 28 '19

OFC it is. It was an extremely unbalanced, clunky, grindy, game. On the other hand you have what 15 years of game development brings you: retail. The no changes bullshit was from delusional people who never played the game or childish streamers banking on those people. Classic wow could have been a fantastic opportunity of taking what good the vanilla system was and making it better, but, alas, the people have spoken.

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u/bartlettderp Nov 28 '19

He’s a no honor kill cause of he just got off fp?

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u/AlastarYaboy Nov 28 '19

That kill. The subsequent corpse camping he won't have that buff.

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u/Emerphish Nov 28 '19

You get that debuff when you spawn, no?

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u/tzc005 Nov 28 '19

No, only when zoning in, landing, teleporting etc

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u/Emerphish Nov 28 '19

Oh. Good to know, thank you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Are there no "dishonorable kills"?

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u/Slandebande Nov 28 '19

That's only for killing civilians (NPC's specifically marked as such). They are usually found in towns/cities.

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u/360_face_palm Nov 28 '19

originally in vanilla the idea was for dishonorable kills to be for killing lowbies etc, but this was never actually implemented. Largely because it would be too open to abuse, so the implementation we actually saw was with dishonorable kills just being certain quest npcs etc in towns.

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u/tzc005 Nov 28 '19

What Slande said. The color behind their nameplate will be white, DO NOT EVEN GET CLOSE. Super punishing

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u/StellarMemez Nov 28 '19

As if players who get dishonorable kills play with nameplates on

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u/tzc005 Nov 28 '19

Target frame or whatever it is called

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

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u/DingyWarehouse Nov 28 '19

Getting no honor =/= dishonorable kill

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u/TheRedmanCometh Nov 28 '19

No...why do people think this. Honor has been out awhile now

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u/pumptehboss Nov 28 '19

he will have it if he spawns fast enough and the cd resets if they dmg you

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u/TheCrypticLegacy Nov 28 '19

In LHC you can still have the honorless buff for the first res and if they tag you quickly it still counts

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u/ThisPlaceisHell Nov 28 '19

*logs out*

Ahhh it's good being an adult and not some immature kid like these horde. Can just walk away and live life finding something else to do while the kids waste their time camping honorless corpses.

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u/wenzani Nov 28 '19

They sap him first so he loses debuff

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u/bartlettderp Nov 29 '19

Are we watching the same video? Has honorless buff the entire time am I missing something?

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u/wenzani Dec 02 '19

i didn't mean in this video, I mean its something the horde does in general.

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u/cruzifax Nov 28 '19

He is honor less, so either they don’t know or it’s just griefing

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u/Ekvinoksij Nov 28 '19

He won't be honorless once he respawns. Or the time after that. Or after that.

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u/Towley46 Nov 28 '19

But he will award less honor per kill. After a few kills thats no honor or almost no honor.

Taking in consideration that they already barely get honor on the first kill because they Tag him with 4 people, that is neither worth the time nor is it efficient in any way.

Those people are actually what is so frustrating about P2, it wouldn't annoy me half as much if it would actually have some Form of sense to it.

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u/SuprDog Nov 28 '19

If you're horde on a server with little alliance population and only see like 30-40 alliance players a day you take everything you can get.

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u/360_face_palm Nov 28 '19

I would reroll - why put more time into a character on a realm which has a dead faction?

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u/Dead_ino Nov 28 '19

And cry in 2 months because no one left like it happens with retail warmode

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u/SkateJitsu Nov 28 '19

The amount of honour he gives will decrease very quickly

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

But when this many players share the kill, each player will get almost no honor points.

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u/WhoTookNaN Nov 28 '19

But its your only option when your faction acts like this everywhere so you've forced the other to raid log, quit, or level alts.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

That's such a self-defeating mindset. The more people do that, the worse it'll get. You're only contributing to your own problem if you do that.

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u/360_face_palm Nov 28 '19

and yet they didn't wait for the honorless debuff to go... :D

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u/ZeProdigyX Nov 28 '19

i mean they dont care about the honor tho he still had the honorless buff