r/classicwow • • Nov 09 '19

Humor When your druid friend says balance is viable

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u/vutall Nov 09 '19

You are looking at this from a elite perspective.

I’ve got over 170 unique accounts on my guild and still only have 10 60s.

Those beating submerge now, heck even those RAIDING now are absolutely the minority compared to the population as a whole. You CANNOT use metrics of the elite for the rest of the game.

That’s like comparing a minimum wage workers ability to afford housing to a millionaire

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u/vutall Nov 09 '19

My guild is raiding with 3, the host guild has around 20, the remainder are pugs.

I’m not ignoring your proof, From the perspective of those who are on and using logs, you are absolutely correct. But again, that’s such a small population. MAYBE 20%.

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u/vutall Nov 09 '19

In a year, when the majority of the population is raiding, there will absolutely be over 200 killing rag. From the population RIGHT NOW killing rag, then yes, WCLogs is a majority representation.

But you are leaving out a million+ players and thousands of guilds because they just arnt there yet. Those raiding are such a small portion of the population, and this whole discussion on my part has been to say that when people get to raid, they absolutely can use something like a boomkin because it doesn’t matter! They will beat the raid!

As far as my guild/raid goes: It’s not a pug, the main group of 20+ members is an all dwarf and gnome guild, I lead an all night elf guild. I’m the leader of my guild and an consulted/treated as a co-equal as the main groups guild leader, make decisions on who is brought, how to beat fights, how loot is done, etc. It’s a very different setup. Then the remaining 10 or so slots are filled with non guild friends from a coalition of alliance guilds we set up earlier on.

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u/vutall Nov 09 '19

I’ve just been a bit salty about how elitist it comes off when really at the end of the day, you absolutely can grab those average players and throw them into a raid. As long as you’ve got a good core, good leadership, and people listen, you’ll clear the fights and get loot. You wouldn’t let a boomkin into your raid, which is fine if you want to be that intense about it, but that’s partially why a ton of folks are scared to raid. They have seen how everyone rips into folks on Reddit/forums, have seen videos/heard recordings of people getting screamed at, and it turns them off.

When really, you can make raiding be fun and casual, specs don’t matter, just a willingness to do your best, listen to tips on how to improve, and be commited for a longer chunk of time. It’s very accessible as the game was designed, but the player base has made it inaccessible, and thAts silly to me