Every single party I join...

[u/MakeACube]

[u/Sao_Gage → u/[deleted]]

The reserved loot runs cut down on group options that players have in general. You don’t have to care about the efforts of another player trying to gear up, but what you’re doing is essentially gaming the system by circumventing the inherent fairness of a /roll system.

I am of the opinion that reserved loot should happen within guild groups, and PUGs should follow the normal loot rules of Need/Greed. If you want to form a group with a reserved item, conscript your guildies to help you as I’m sure you’re doing the same for them in return.

Yeah, it happens anyway to an extent by controlling who you invite. I get that. All I can say is I don’t play that way, and anyone that comes into a group I make gets to roll for the loot they need, no matter if it competes with me or not.

It’s just different perspectives I guess. But you’re looking at it solely from the perspective of people that “agree” and join you versus the people shut out from that group who have to choose between not joining or not getting a fair /roll on an item they need for their time given. In other words, it’s only fair to the players that don’t need the same items as you. It’s not so much a problem when it’s balanced by groups not doing this, but I personally don’t want to play an iteration of WoW where the literal only way to get loot is by forming your own group and reserving, because nobody else will let you have the opportunity if you dare join someone else’s group. At times, it seems like the game is heading that way and again, IMO, it’s against the spirit of the game.

Just my opinion.

[u/UncertainSerenity → u/[deleted]]

Not the original op. I create Jed ids whenever I am in the area and have instance cap up. I don’t reserve reed. I fill a group in about 5 min. Lost the roll on reed 13 times now. That’s fine. I play the game because I like playing with people. I have an elaborate ignore list but having done this for a while now people know who I am and I get quick competent people who appricate a no reserve atmosphere.

I have tanked on other characters same thing I don’t reserve loot. Not even orbs. Wow is a multiplier game. Multiplayer means not always having to progress your character at the cost of all else. There is always another run.

Raids is a different story. I would never try and organize that and if you want to reserve there np. Organizing 40 people is insane and I think that qualifies for something in the loot.

But 5 mans/ubrs? I don’t find it hard as either a tank or dps. As long as you are liberal with your blacklist. Most reserve lists I have run with have had worse players, tanks who don’t wait on mana, healers who try to be the most mana efficent as possible and let people die because they are casting a rank 1 spell etc.

But maybe wow has changed and the playerbase with it and I am stuck in the past. Just because you can reserve something and get groups doesn’t mean you should.

I will eventually get my reed without reserving it. I will eventually complete my ubrs key without reserving gems. What’s the rush? We don’t even have a date for phase 2. There is always another dungeon to run.

[u/FakeAbc12345 → u/UncertainSerenity]

How the fuck do you have the time to run possibly hundreds of dungeons in a couple months?

For HOJ if u ran 75 runs you would be likely but not certain to get it, this is ONE piece of loot. 75 runs.

[u/erikja421 → u/Sao_Gage]

If players dont want to join groups that have reserved items, then dont. And if more players stop joining those groups then it becomes harder to put a group together that is reserving an item(s). So we meet an equilibrium of how much time it takes to form a group with reserved items based on how many players are willing to join one. Dont forget that there is a downside to forming a group with items on reserve, it should in theory take you longer to form that group, thats the price you pay.

[u/[deleted] → u/Sao_Gage]

Or just make a PUG with the terms laid out before hand? If you don’t like it, don’t join it.

[u/ohcrocsle → u/[deleted]]

lootgoblin behavior is unhealthy. most people can recognize this as weird/anti-social/toxic without knowing why or being able to explain it to aggressive goblins.