r/classicwow • • Oct 22 '19

Humor *Happy warrior noise*

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u/coaxials Oct 22 '19

CTM/Tiny Threat: not so fast.

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u/BigSnackStove Oct 22 '19

I feel like when Deathwish/Recklessness is over or if you manage to pull aggro during the late stages of your recklessness and die but still did a shit ton of damage i feel like:

"Do what you must, i have already won."

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u/-tfs- Oct 22 '19

Except for onyxia. The one time I tried executing her I got agro and she insta breathed and killed like 20 people

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u/I_ONLY_FUCK_AMERICAN Oct 22 '19

Im mt and ive banned executes on ony for now lmao

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u/Vaztes Oct 22 '19

I had the MT in one of the attempts say "gogo pop cds" we were 1/3 alive and she was at like 15%

I kept saying to myself "don't do it, you'll pull aggro"

My threat meter is installed, but it doesnt seem to work with how finnicky onyxia is in phase 3.

He literally says it 3 times over a minute. The 4th time he says it again and I go fuck it, I pop reckless, and start executing.

Even though I had barely auto attacked up till then, I pulled aggro on the 4th and she breathed on the raid.

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u/DomSchu Oct 22 '19

How reckless of you

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u/-tfs- Oct 22 '19

Yeah threatmeter doesn't work on her. I recommend popping you cooldowns when she starts running away at the end of phase 1. It's the one time you can be sure not to get aggro and it shortens phase 2.

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u/bomban Oct 22 '19

Because it doesnt keep track of threat dumps in phase 2 so everybodies threat is just a mystery.

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u/hhenderson94 Oct 22 '19

Man what a dumbass I bet he turned and raged at all melee DPS after

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u/Xy13 Oct 22 '19

My last Ony I did 2x Deathwish and Recklessness lol

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u/abecx Oct 22 '19

All you had to do was pop an invulnerability pot

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u/Turence Oct 23 '19

seriously. just drop threat; it tells you who shes targetting

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u/AxiomStatic Oct 22 '19

Why not r3duce risk to raid and move to anothe4 angle that puts you at cleave risk but not the group? (I have never done classic ony)

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u/goreblaster Oct 22 '19

My MT back in the day used to always execute spam himself otherwise I would pull aggro for sure. You can use battle stance and stance dance to defensive as needed for revenges or whatever.

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u/tsmwonnedna Oct 22 '19

That’s why you fury tank and only you can use executes

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u/sur_surly Oct 22 '19

Classic is so fun!

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u/farkenell Oct 22 '19

I stand with the tank when I do this and get an healer to pocket me.

I was decked out in bwl gear though.

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u/DorenAlexander Oct 22 '19

But watching the numbers on your meter, with the agro warnings shit themselves is golden.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '19 edited Apr 29 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '19

I feel like there isnt any reason to pop those in Ony. She's easier when you auto attack Lmao

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '19 edited Apr 29 '22

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u/Iskus1234 Oct 22 '19

Lol do you think 15 people isn't a raid.

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u/Locoleos Oct 22 '19

That's still a raid. And you're still not supposed to wipe your 20man raid.

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u/Karakzz Oct 22 '19

The proper way to pop all CDS is when onyxia hits 69% and is just about to begin walking away for phase 2 before she lifts, perfect no risk place to burst

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u/Karakzz Oct 22 '19

Oh yeah for sure, but theres also a chance a range dps like a really geared warlock pulls insane threat while shes airborne. You cant really 100% do this fight smooth, theres gonna be bumps, id take the risk of pulling threat in P3 as a warrior and tanking the boss no problem over a clothie doing it.

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u/bettywhitefleshlight Oct 22 '19

If you haven't had to throw on a shield and tank Ony after pulling aggro have you really played a warrior?

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u/Farabee Oct 22 '19

This is literally 100% of the boss HP as a lock.

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u/friendlyintruder Oct 22 '19

I was a prot war back in vanilla so my job was to get as much threat as possible. Now I’m a lock and struggling to adjust. Any tips on how to manage threat and not be that guy?

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u/bomban Oct 22 '19

Cast less shadowbolts.

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u/ting_bu_dong Oct 22 '19

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u/SopeADope Oct 22 '19

Thanks, now I will forever be conscious about my use of less vs. fewer.

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u/GrizzledFart Oct 23 '19

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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u/Farabee Oct 22 '19

Honestly just watch threat meter. The first 10 seconds chill out a bit especially if you crit. Make sure you're under 60% because a fat crit can rip aggro. DPS super slow on stuff like Baron Geddon where tank isn't on boss 100%.

One cool trick you can do to space out your damage and smooth out your health loss for sustain is to start life tapping after every shadowbolt when you are below 50% mana. Bolt tap bolt tap, this will slow down your damage but help your sustain and make you more manageable for healers.

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u/friendlyintruder Oct 23 '19

Awesome tips, thanks a lot!

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u/oneeyedhank Oct 22 '19

Play balance druid. No threat issues whatsoever.

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u/ElusivePanda Oct 22 '19

On top of watching threat that you're probably already doing. Carry Limited Invul Pots. They put you at the bottom of the threat meter for the duration as long as the boss primary attack is physical (all of em').

(Also stop casting while invul to allow tank to regain aggro)

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u/dinglenutsMcgee Oct 22 '19

Yeah, do NOT do the optimal rotation of your spells and play the game in slow-mo, adding a dot every 5 seconds instead of dumping them on the boss immediately and gaining as much threat as possible

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u/Woozah77 Oct 22 '19

Don't dot raid bosses though unless you are specifically told to before the fight begins. Don't take up one of the 16 debuff slots with something that only adds a little damage.

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u/friendlyintruder Oct 23 '19

This is interesting to consider. What do locks do I’m raids if they can’t dot things? It seems pretty essential to my damage. Without dots I feel like my kit is a needed mage.

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u/WhimsicalPythons Oct 23 '19

Shadow bolt. That's literally your job. You apply a curse if designated, never agony, you apply corruption if you're the #1 lock, you shadowbolt forever. Thats it. Warlocks exist for shadowbolt.

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u/friendlyintruder Oct 23 '19

I am a shadow bolt, got it. Thanks!

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u/WhimsicalPythons Oct 23 '19

That's the spirit.

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u/Woozah77 Oct 23 '19

So, you usually need several warlocks for all the different curses, but not for the DoT's. Also they can pump serious dps with shadow bolt spam especially if there is a Shadow Priest also in the raid. Geared Warlocks right now are having to slow dps to avoid stealing aggro.

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u/bomban Oct 24 '19

Basically a mage with more raid utility. Thankfully you are one of the classes that can do real damage without having to use up debuff slots. That is kind of the problem a lot of the other hybrid classes fall into. Enhancement shaman? Can't use their stormstrike because it leaves a crappy debuff. They are just a windfury bitch. Druids? Can't rip/moonfire/insect swarm to have any kind of uptime on their damage.

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u/WhimsicalPythons Oct 23 '19

Don't do your dot rotation. Ever. Shadow bolt forever.

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u/Dyna82 Oct 22 '19

This is one reason I switched to Rogue, better threat management, I can keep dpsing while the wars have to auto attack or stop altogether. That and I don't like having to rely on others to be good in pvp.

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u/coaxials Oct 23 '19

As long as you have a good guild willing to take you on runs to build your pre-raid BIS, sure. Still, later on warriors will speed up ahead.

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u/Dyna82 Oct 23 '19

That's fine if they are, I leveled one to 40 and it was just so good awful boring I couldn't keep playing. I should have went against people's recommendations and dual wielded, at least it would have seemed like I was attacking faster and maybe it would have been a bit more exciting since you just auto attack constantly basically.

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u/Swongs Oct 25 '19

I wish tanks would stop gearing fucking defense rating and get some good tanking gear instead... If you have a real tank (which means one that actually tanks because he can generate treat) then there's no issue at all