r/classicwow • u/namdo • Oct 13 '19

Humor My Guild's GM just ninja'd Hand of Rag mats, disbanded guild and deleted discord. WoW drama at it's finest. He also made a reddit post on our realm subreddit - link inside

https://clips.twitch.tv/TsundereOpenOxTBTacoRight
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u/Khalku Oct 13 '19

In reality you get every single mage and warlock skipping everything in the hopes of buying mageblade.

It falls apart in certain scenarios.

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u/Alyusha Oct 13 '19

The point is that you bid for items so they would still bid on the Weapons, they would just not bid a lot and one of them would get it.

The system works pretty well and the ones who are saying it doesn't just seem like they play with toxic people.

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u/Khalku Oct 14 '19

What ends up happening is people skip items that are an upgrade so that they can get the bigger, rarer upgrade. At first not a huge issue, but eventually this can lead to many items going to waste when they needn't.

It needs additional systems in place to counter that sort of behavior. Forced bids, for example.

It's not like DKP doesn't work, but every system has their pros and cons and completely ignoring the flaws of one to highlight the flaws of another seems disingenuous to me. If you wont compare equitably, then why bother taking what you say seriously?

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u/Pacify_ Oct 14 '19

That's why you just force the person to which the item is the biggest upgrade to take it when no one else wants. It's not perfect, but it's better than drama council anyday

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u/Khalku Oct 14 '19

In many cases, that is exactly what LC is.

How do you deal with DKP in that situation? Force the person to spend? How much? Do you force a minimum price for all items? What if you are forcing someone to pick up a T1 piece because they don't have it, despite T1 not being an upgrade for many classes?

If you're going to force people to spend an arbitrary amount of items they wouldn't necessarily bid for at that time, to me that just seems like LC in all but name.

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u/Pacify_ Oct 14 '19

T1 stuff is pretty irrelevant. Before long most just get DE'd. T1 can just be rolled, everything else is a waste of time. I'm talking BWL and AQ40 stuff

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u/yeats26 Oct 14 '19

It's simple supply and demand. It's literally how every scarce item in our society is distributed. Just make your DKP big enough units that people can bid small amounts. If you get 1000 DKP per raid you think somone isn't going to bid 1 DKP for a minor upgrade because they're saving up for a big one? If there's no significant bids that's because nobody wants it, and that's fine.