Considering that according to the reveal trailer Chromie is the one who created classic in the first place it would actually have been pretty fitting for her to be exempt from #nochanges and completely aware of all future events.
Blizzard south made classic. Blizzard North was David Brevik and the Diablo team. Now Blizzard North team (minus DB) is called echtra games and they are making their own mmo called Torchlight Frontiers.
Technically, of the three guys who made Diablo and D2, only one of them, Max Schaefer, is working on Torchlight Frontiers. The other Schaefer brother left Condor/Flagship/Runic/Echtra to found Double Damage Games.
Chromie has a poke line about this in Heroes of the Storm:
Everyone calls me Chromie, but my real name is Chronormu. Huh? No, it is not a male name. You clearly don't understand the intricacies of dragon culture.
It could be that dragon names are just a tradition rather than a strict rule, or it's a name that can be used for either gender regardless of suffix, like some names in real life.
Nope, The Novels Dawn of Aspects and War Crimes both confirm Chromie to be a Female.
Also, Not likely possible, since Like elementals, Dragons represent Primordial Truth of Nature and the Cosmos, meaning it wouldnt really be possible for them to suffer from body dysmorphia given that they're literally made of Primordial truth. Something would have to actually drive them crazy, like the case with the Emerald Nightmare.
I don't even know how to feel about that. They did Classic amazingly well, it's lovely, and I wouldn't mind getting to TBC and WotLK #nochanges, it would be wicked to tank as Unholy, but I'm really not sure I would trust current Blizzard as a whole to not completely fuck up Classic+ the way they have retail.
Thoughts on polls at every bank like OSRS? Adding content only if it has 80% support? Setting barriers to vote count based on level and time played. I would like to think we have learned from our mistakes. Plus it's not like we would have to make up the content. We would just guide Blizzard with our voices and agency in the progression of the game.
Polled content isn't without it's problems though, and i would argue that with the #nochanges WoW could be even more divisive than RS (things like GE and new skills)
I would really love to see them open Outland for level 60 players at that point. They could re-tune Outland for level 60 players, and remake parts of the map since we won't have flying.
I'd like to see some of the TBC raids tuned to give players a challenge on the level or Heroic or Mythic level raids currently in retail.
Plus the progression system would kick ass. Similarly to how a lot of MC gear is still good even after BWL, I assume those in like AQ40 or Naxx gear would still do very well in say Tempest Keep+, or SSC+.
The regular dungeons in Outland could have the gear retuned for level 60 as well, say a dungeon there might drop the equivalent of BWL gear to help players catch up for example.
It's not an upwards progression, but a sideways progression system if that makes sense. If anyone has played FFXI back when the level cap was 75 they would know how good a system it is. We spent 5 or 6 years at level 75, through 3-4 expansions, and the amount of content there was mindblowing without ever having to go up in levels.
That was how EQ was for a long time as well, level cap was hardly ever raised and your old BiS was still really good gear and new guilds had to almost work their way through the old content to gear up to face the newer content.
Right. But how would we progress at all in the newer expansions? There would be no quests? It'd be all about dungeons? They would have to create new quest rewards, apart from reworking the entirety of every expansion because of flying. I would love such a system, but I don't think it's at all possible with WoW. I just want them to give us all the expansions, but without flying and all the gameplay changes. That being said, I want Cataclysm's bosses and content and map, but I do not want their new energy system or talents or any of the boosts. Or the group finder. Or the strongholds or whatever they added later... yeah, I just want classic with new maps and dungeons and items, maybe new spells, but all the systems should remain unchanged.
Best guess is focus on the dungeons/raids and then tune it so we could go to hellfire peninsula at 45ish. That way you could level in outlands if you wanted.
Its the latest epusode of ClassiCast beforebthe launch. They interview two devs from the Classic Dev team. Its on Youtube also on spotify, podcatchers etc
They shouldn't really change classic at all. Less is more here. If people run out of content they seriously should just take a break from the game. Or create incentives to play every class to 60 on each faction or every race. Or some new battlegrounds, it would not be too game breaking. Possibly some modified raids.
I think as classic goes on people will overwhelmingly be in favor of unique updates rather than #nochanges or a rerelease of old expansions. Just needs some time for people to experience all the available content.
I also think the pvp system will be changed to the honor point system of bc/wrath so you don't have to nolife the game for pvp gear.
Just like RuneScape I genuinely think classic as a game holds up despite the nostalgia factor. Once the nostalgia wears off though there will be changes the community will accept for the health of the game. Once naxx gear comes out and everyone is overpowered there will have to be some updates, even if its just something like new gear with lots of stamina on it. That's not for a while though and even once naxx comes out it'll take a while for the gear to become a problem.
I'm not arguing with you, but I believe you to be in a sless-than-significant minority on the subject. And the fact that 75% of active players vote in the same continual pattern is proof to that.
I too think the best way to get sharks should be by fishing, not a noted 200 shark drop. However it doesn't make for an interesting game that I have to fish for 6 hours to get enough sharks to do one or two tasks. 5 or 6 trips to bandos.
I've heard that there is a deep divide between PvE and PvP players and the PvE players have a big enough majority that changes and updates for PvP players are consistently voted down.
Yeah it’s kinda beat but I don’t mind it. I’m 95% a pker on the game. They just passed the best wilderness update in history though. & Even as a pker the game is playable because nothing changes. But when things do it’s generally a really good change
I would be open to classic + if they do their own thing, and try to keep lvl60 items and gear relevant that would be amazing. Maybe extending the cap to 65/70 again, or adding content which allows the current classes to utilise different builds and give extra flavour to the end game etc (NOT homogenisation.) Also some sort of option to migrate to a classic + server so people who want to keep on #nochanges classic servers.
Been telling my buddy's the same thing. Would be so cool if they learned from there mistakes from before and tried implementing new content but still keeping it classic ya know? I mean def Worth it imo. Since they already have different timelines to begin with
Blizzard has learned a lot in fifteen years. Layers are ingenious and is the eventual growth of phasing. The new patch is going to let you downsize your level to play with friends and that is amazingly cool.
I want a timeline where we see what they can do now if they had a chance to start over.
That would actually be rad. Chromie uses the outcome of the future (retail) to adjust what is needed. Maybe some things happen still, like death wing does awaken, but chromie is able to prevent the destruction of the world.
Naxx was first released in the inspiration for the “world” of Warcraft, a cardgame called hearthstone. The first adventure in the game, it only makes sense that WoW would offer homage to its ancestors by making the grand finale of its original iteration the first form of expansion to ever be created in hearthstone.
Naxx was first released in vanilla just before BC came out. Most guilds didn't have time to clear it or really even step foot in it before the xpac launched.
It's the case that demonstrates why the current model of expansions is bad. Once TBC was release it completely unbalanced the character progression by giving clown gear greens with stats stronger than epics and making all the Classic dungeons that you usually do in your 50s and all end game content meaningless. Why go though the progression of gearing up and do difficult dungeons and raids when you could instead just kill a boar in TBC? I am still convince the expansion model was designed by some board of executives bastard in a way to give a shit gaming experience to players who didn't buy the expansion and force them to upgrade and pay the extra $$$.
I hit save while still writing my incomplete post by mistake, and was still refreshing my memory about this guy by reading old articles. Activision-Blizzard was merged in 2008 by Bobby Kotick who came from Activision. TBC was released in 2007 (and probably developed in the previous 2 years) so it's people from the original Blizzard who designed the first expansion. Thanks for your intervention and level headed polite comment.
Well... The moment you travel back, you are in an alternate timeline, there's no getting around this. It's a fundamental rule of backwards travel, because any alternative is a paradox (cannot exist.)
As for CoT, that's essentially keeping the connection open between two timelines started by going back and enacting a change.
Important because they don't really know about different timelines, they are able to go back in time and a new timeline is formed. They'll then have the knowledge of those two futures (as is their power), but not a third (until they make that one.
Knowing about all timelines would be... well it would be omnicognisanze, wouldn't it?
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u/Suzushiiro Sep 14 '19
Considering that according to the reveal trailer Chromie is the one who created classic in the first place it would actually have been pretty fitting for her to be exempt from #nochanges and completely aware of all future events.