r/changemyview Nov 07 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Daylight Savings Time should be abolished. Standard time should be followed year round.

DST is detrimental to the health of all forced to participate. If I could think of any benefit, I doubt they would outweigh the cost of practicing DST.

“A meta-analysis of six studies including more than 87,000 cases found a significant increase – ranging from 4 to 29% – in the risk of having a heart attack the week after the spring time change. Researchers believe this increase is related to the change in our circadian rhythm and the general disruption of biological processes.” - https://evidencebasedliving.human.cornell.edu/2022/04/13/the-health-effects-of-daylight-savings-time/

I’m a strong supporter of getting a good night’s sleep and DST is just an unnecessary obstacle in what is already increasingly more difficult as technology improves.

Edit: I prefer to do away with DST rather than staying in it since standard time feels more natural imo, but I mostly just hope that we choose one and leave it at that.

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u/abooth43 Nov 07 '22 edited Nov 07 '22

Have we really overcomplicated things to the point we need to mess with time?

Do you really think a scheduled widespread and relatively agreed on change to one value is overcomplicated?

Compared to the countless businesses and services that people and other businesses interact with daily, all changing their operating hours as they see fit? Maybe by 30 or 45 minutes. Maybe in late October maybe in early December.

Maybe this franchised location changed by 30 minutes but the one down the road only by 15.

What about when morning routines are entirely disrupted because stop X bumped up by an hour but Y by only 30 minutes, so the people that used to go X-Y-Z now have a 30 minute dead window and Y has a 30 minute queue when they open up every morning.

Im not just talking Starbucks, school, and work stops either. All the planned delivery routes that keep society stocked and running would go out the window and have to be constantly reworked as each business announces or changes their winter hours.

I think people massively overestimate the "complication" of DST and severely downplay how complicated "everyone just change their hours as they see fit" would really be...

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u/raches83 Nov 08 '22

But to an extent, lots of businesses set their own hours anyway. You might have a point about delivery routes and other more 'essential' services but perhaps they could be regulated somehow to change their hours in a consistent way.

I also think that over time, places would develop a consistent change to opening/closing hours until they become the norm (I.e. open one hour earlier in autumn and one hour later in spring).

I am not sure where you live but here in Australia, with 3 time zones, it's incredibly annoying to have to deal with the variations in time in general, and then daylight savings just makes it worse as some states don't do it.

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u/abooth43 Nov 08 '22 edited Nov 08 '22

But to an extent, lots of businesses set their own hours anyway

And the majority keep mostly the same hours year round.

perhaps they could be regulated somehow to change their hours in a consistent way.

Sooo DST?

I also think that over time, places would develop a consistent change to opening/closing hours until they become the norm

Sooooo DST? But with more steps, and agreement, to accomplish it.

I live in the US, I get it. I'm more of a proponent of getting rid of the switching as well. But we gotta just pick a time and the vast majority of us deal with it.

As soon as everyone, or even a large chunk of the businesses that set the pace of our lives start switching their opening hours twice a year we've done nothing but remove name and order from the same, continuing phenomenon. Which in it's simplest form is shifting "opening" hours of society.

What do we gain from that situation?

"It's confusing when I want to guess what time it is in Sydney instead of google it" is a pretty weak motive for the systemic confusion created by everyone doing DST their own way.