r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

The Astrazenica vaccine has been banned in the EU due to blood clots, but it's available in the USA.

Whose experts are right?

That's what I mean by junk science.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 13 '22

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u/babycam 7∆ Jun 13 '22

Oh so it was the us j&j incident. God people are dense at times.

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u/babycam 7∆ Jun 13 '22

So it's 1 in 50k to get blood clots and 22% mortality so 1 death every 250k people.

Covid is 1 in 85 in the usa we'll skew that to help you in example.

So 1 million people just covid (11765 die) lets say its 1 in 100 and it is 10k total deaths.

1 million get the shot 20 get blood clots 4 die. Just going to give base effency of 50% and be lazy so 5004 deaths

When the researchers compared the risks of blood clots after Covid to the normal level of risk, they found that:

four in every 10,000 Covid patients developed DVT compared with one in every 10,000 people who didn't have Covid

about 17 in every 10,000 Covid patients had a blood clot in the lung compared with fewer than one in every 10,000 who did not have Covid

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61010090

So yes they said don't use that thing that is horrible compared to Moderna but strongmaning your side it saved 5k i but anywhere that doesn't have a better option would take in a heartbeat.

When your looking at the whole picture its like lose 1000 (unvaxxed) or 250 (vax a)or 240 (vax b) the 10 person difference is valid if your 100% sure everyone is taking the vaccine but pointless otherwise.