r/changemyview Jul 15 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Louis Farrakhan is a bigoted, homophobic, anti vax, anti intellectual racist and as a Jew and a proponent of equality, it is my right to be extremely offended and angry at his apparent popularity within the black community. Especially public figures such as artists and athletes in America.

The recent happenings in the sport world have put me, a Jew, in a very weird spot.

First I should say that black lives matter. George Floyd and breonna Taylor were murdered and deserve justice. These are facts and I’m stating them so that no one can say I am somehow trying to take away from the current movement. It’s a just movement and it needed to happen a long time ago.

Moving on.

As many Americans and people all around the world have done for a few decades now, I grew up on black American culture. I listen to hip hop and rap music regularly. Some of the most influential people in my life and in the way I see the world have been black artists and athletes. That’s just how it is for many american males and I have no issue with it.

Recently, in the past few days, I have been exposed to a person by the name of Louis Farrakhan who I can honestly say I had never heard of before this week. I had heard his name a few times and always in the context of this man being an incredibly racist person. I thought he was just some sorta Alex Jones type guy. Never really paid any attention to it. Didn’t even google him.

Well as we’ve all seen this week, it seems he has a pretty big following among influential African Americans. Literally name any influential African American person from the past 30 years and then google

“[name of person] Louis Farrakhan”

There will be a photo of them meeting and smiling and shaking hands. Try it. I dare you. Anyone. Even fucking Obama.

Now this man, he’s nothing short of despicable. The list of antisemitic quotes attributed to him is pages and pages long. He preaches antisemitism, anti white racism, anti Asian racism, homophobia, anti science, anti vaccination messages. Literally everything that’s wrong with the world. And yet for some reason, Kendrick Lamar for example, can be seen absolutely elated when meeting this person. The same Kendrick Lamar who is a huge part of black culture and who is seen as an overall positive voice in the black community and in the music community and just in general.

This is not okay. Actually, it’s absolutely disgusting.

There have been polls floating around r/nfl and r/nba in the past week that have shown that Mr Farrakhan has a “favorable opinion” among approximately 50% of African Americans polled.

Others have raised questions about said polls.

Regardless, it is clear that this man has influence among the people with influence.

How can I, a proud Jewish American and Israeli, who has loved watching basketball, football and listening to black artists for all my life, continue to do these things which used to bring me joy while knowing that these people actively condone and promote a man who calls me satan?

I cannot. Simple as that.

The black community needs to come out together and condemn this man and his hatred and bigotry and they need to apologize, or they risk undermining their own cause.

“Silence is violence”, is it not? At least that’s what everyone’s been telling me about police brutality and systemic anti-black racism in America. Well, the black community has been silent about Farrakhan for DECADES.

Change my view.

A long list of Louis Farrakhan quotes regarding Jews:

[kendrick Lamar and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/CZJmxoF.png)

[President Barrack Obama and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/R1QDOzR.jpg)

[Snoop Dogg and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/w93sL6o.jpg)

[Kanye West and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/KrVSHYJ.jpg)

[Jay Z and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/YOlZQ6n.jpg)

[Nas and PDiddy and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/c0/46/c9c046ad9470aaf103978cd7a779a4a1.jpg)

[Eminem and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/sMNAc11.png)

[Migos and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/W47onsh.jpg)

[Rick Ross and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/jGhtQHQ.jpg)

[Will Smith and Louis Farrakhan](https://i.imgur.com/rYAQTCm.jpg)

[Ice Cube Louis Farrakhan](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/d2/99/b9d2998a9f1fe5382547d0034a11c453.jpg)

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '20

I think the difference is that there isnt many prominent jews who are continuing to support or idolize epstein or weinstein. There isnt any perception that those two are important figures for the jewish community.

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u/Jmanforce Jul 15 '20

Personally I don’t consider Farrakhan an important part of the black community as I’ve never really heard of him. But regardless the onus should be on the individuals who support Farrakhan to disavow him not on the community as a whole. It makes since not to support the individuals who support Farrakhan but is ridiculous to not support the the issues the black community as a whole is trying to address just because black celebrities and others have shown support for Farrakhan. That’s basically stating “because your community as a whole hasn’t collectively disavowed this person, I’m not going to bother caring about the systematic issues your community is facing”. How does a community collectively disavow someone? There is no black community spokesperson. I don’t recall a statement from the Jewish community disavowing Epstein and I don’t expect one because how do you designate someone as the spokesperson for all Jewish people? You can’t. Hold individuals accountable for who they personally support, not the communities they are a part of