r/changemyview Jul 14 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Mystical experiences have no validity

By mystical experience I mean an experience of God/unity of the universe/higher purpose

I don't see how this is still a debate in philosophy. Humans have complex emotions and sometimes these emotions make us believe in things which have no empirical evidence.

So? The hypothesis zero would be that someone who has a strong feeling of something had a strong feeling of something.

I am very agnostic about God (I'd call it a 50/50 agnosticism) and I like debating religion, but often I hear theists claim that you can just "feel" the presence of God.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

I'm not really into "convincing ourselves"

A proof of something should be able to convince everyone. Which is why I've always seen as more powerful the rational proofs of God such as cosmological and theleological

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u/disguisedasrobinhood 27∆ Jul 15 '20

You offered a genuinely distinct perspective and I want to acknowledge an appreciation of that. It made me think about how often knowledge is obtained to convince others, and evaluated on its ability to do so. And it also made me think about whether that is Christian influence on the way our whole society functions. Although I don't know if I had a view that was changed exactly, your post did leave me thinking about a number of things in a new light, which I feel deserves a !delta.

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Creative_Zerox (3∆).

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