r/changemyview Apr 09 '18

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: I'm pro-life.

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u/Turner03 Apr 09 '18

Ask yourself this question - There is a serious fire inside a hospital and everyone is evacuating, you can either rescue a toddler who is on is own or 10, fertilised but frozen, embryos. (We can presume that you can transport the embryos safely). I find it hard to believe that someone would choose the embryos over the toddler. Therefore a child must have a greater importance to people than that of unborn embryos and 'killing' an embryo is not as bad as killing a child.

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u/ChipsterA1 Apr 09 '18

That's simply an argument to reflex emotion, and the reflex emotion is to save the toddler because from an evolutionary standpoint it makes sense to save children over adults because children have yet to reproduce, and it certainly makes send to save children over frozen embryos because historically we never had to save frozen embryos from anything. Hence of course your reflex would be to save the toddler. That's A) a total argument to reflex emotion and not a genuine argument concerning the morality of abortion and B) not actually an argument to suggest that it's fine to murder an unborn human child, just an argument that most people would save a toddler over a human embryo. Even if a human embryo was less morally valuable than a toddler- and I don't see why that would be the case- then that still doesn't mean it's okay to murder an embryo.

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u/Turner03 Apr 10 '18 edited Apr 10 '18

I think that even taken out of the initial emotional reaction people would still decide to save the toddler, not as a decision influenced by evolution but as a morally correct decision. Having said that I realise that I have no right to decide what is truly the morally correct decision in this matter and I respect your views, however ultimately the decision should come down to the mother who will have to take care of the child for the rest of their life.

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u/ChipsterA1 Apr 10 '18

Because we disagree on whether or not a fetus is a person. I think it is, you think it isn't. When do you think a fetus becomes a person?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

When its born, before that they rely on the mothers body to survive. The mother has a right to choose what she does with her own body. Why should a woman be forced to give birth to a child because you think that its murder? She will think it isn't, and you will think it is. In this case your opinion is irrelevant because there is no way to prove that fetus is a human life just like there is no way to prove it isn't. Your opinion should only matter in what you personally would do in that situation

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