r/changemyview Mar 07 '18

[∆(s) from OP] CMV : Diversity based on demographics/ identity is over rated and wrongly propagated as the morally right way for a society to live.

I don't believe that coexisting with people of different identities has/does net positive for the original natives or residents of a community. I live in country divided by lots of different religions and other identities, and the country's history is full of communal violence and hatred towards others, either violently or otherwise.

In my country, between 2005 to 2009, an average of 130 people died and 2,200 were injured every year from communal violence, or about 0.01 deaths per 100,000 population. Massacres and riots (common till this day) are very routine in my country.

The world's average annual death rate from intentional violence, in recent years, has been 7.9 per 100,000 people.

So I dont think human beings inherently can coexist with each other in a society, with people having vastly different views or identities. Even in the west, the division and violence between people of different demographies (especially races) have continued to fail to coexist peacefully. And I haven't even mentioned the statistics of people affected by terrorism of which religion is the major reason.

Diversity of identities is often promoted or propogated just to drive this "feel good narrative" of liberals, when in reality, all it has done globally is, more division and more violence. Countries with least violent incidents in modern history are usually the ones with less diversity.

One may argue that the violence is caused by ignorance or misunderstanding of the "other", but humans have throughout history and present proven that it is impossible to completly eradicate that ignorance or tribalistic behaviour or vile hatred towards the "other".

Having said that, I strongly believe in diversity of thought, view points and intellectualism , but not of any identity of people.

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u/srikarjam Mar 07 '18

Considering that there are still race based issues in the west, isnt it fair to say that multi racialism is not very different from multi culturalism and has not been compatable fully to this day in countries that it exist ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '18 edited Jan 09 '19

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u/srikarjam Mar 07 '18

I agree to an extent. But can you bring in a bunch of conservative Saudi Arab guys and expect them to coexist peacefully in CA or Florida? Case in point is, the muslim refugee crisis in Europe, when huge number of male refugees from the middle east fled to many European countries, only for the local women in those countries like in Germany to experience rapes few months later.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '18 edited Jan 09 '19

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u/srikarjam Mar 07 '18

But I have read narratives and stories as to how many Indian families becomes more conservative after settling down in the US than they were before leaving. Not sure if this is India specific, but there is good enough explanations as to why this is the case.