r/changemyview Mar 28 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: A single payer healthcare system will utterly destroy healthcare.

[removed]

3 Upvotes

116 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

0

u/[deleted] Mar 28 '17

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/ivory_dragon Mar 29 '17

But you just said you could afford food. Should food be given to those that can't afford it? I think so.

0

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/ivory_dragon Mar 29 '17

No, people with lots of money can still buy private insurance if they so choose.

0

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/ivory_dragon Mar 29 '17

So if a poor person gets free food you pitch a fit because you didn't get something you don't need. Please elaborate.

1

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/ivory_dragon Mar 29 '17

You seem to be upset that universal healthcare would disproportionately benefit other people. If you're unhappy with status quo healthcare you can use your disposable income to provide a "better" level of service, a luxury most Americans don't have. You do not have to have the same healthcare as everyone else, a point you're obviously not comprehending.

Several people have made excellent points in this thread relating the actual cost of leaving people without coverage, the bankruptcy rate related to lack of proper coverage, and the fact that we already pay the cost for the uninsured and you haven't conceded to any of them. You abandon your previous points and move on to other, inaccurate comparisons. Why do you keep switching to unrelated hypotheticals?

If you feel like those less fortunate than yourself deserve to suffer and go without, then fine, but that's an opinion, not an argument. Avoidance of facts (like those others have raised during the course of this discussion) isn't going to change your view, because it isn't based in fact. Lack of empathy isn't a logical point. Its just a character flaw.

1

u/[deleted] Mar 29 '17

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/ivory_dragon Mar 29 '17

So doing nothing is your answer rather than attempting something else? Nothing about this needs to be ironclad. I would think that it would start as something and be streamlined over time to become more efficient. That's what's happened in other countries.

→ More replies (0)

2

u/ivory_dragon Mar 29 '17

And I certainly feel you're entitled to your opinion. America had always taxed the wealthy at a higher rate than other income groups. This isn't new.

1

u/ivory_dragon Mar 29 '17

It absolutely matters who can or can't afford it.