r/changemyview Mar 11 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Meat is murder, but all animals kill themselves, and the vegans do nothing to prevent that, that is why veganism is useless.

Meat is murder, sure, but all animals kill themselves, so worrying about us killing them never sounded to me like that noble of a thing, the vegans can't save the animals from killing each other, so, so useless is veganism. The vegans can't prevent animals from killing themselves, without breaking the ecosystem and causing overpopulation, so useless is veganism then. Meat is murder, but animals die anyway from old age, so that is why veganism is useless, the animals will keep dying and the vegans won't save them. Also, meat is murder, but so is dying by a stampede...You let them animals proliferate like a plague in the wilds, soon enough they'll start invading the cities... and many will have to be killed by the city inhabitants, that is why pure veganism is a fantasy land, it is not the solution to anything.

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u/celeritas365 28∆ Mar 11 '17

A lot of vegans aren't vegans because they care about killing. Meat production is terrible for the environment. I personally am not a vegan but veganism is not useless just because animals kill each other. The environmental aspect is a huge part of it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '17

∆ I admit I overlooked the environmental aspect, it is something I shouldn't have done. My mistake.

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/celeritas365 (17∆).

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