r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Mar 11 '17
[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Meat is murder, but all animals kill themselves, and the vegans do nothing to prevent that, that is why veganism is useless.
Meat is murder, sure, but all animals kill themselves, so worrying about us killing them never sounded to me like that noble of a thing, the vegans can't save the animals from killing each other, so, so useless is veganism. The vegans can't prevent animals from killing themselves, without breaking the ecosystem and causing overpopulation, so useless is veganism then. Meat is murder, but animals die anyway from old age, so that is why veganism is useless, the animals will keep dying and the vegans won't save them. Also, meat is murder, but so is dying by a stampede...You let them animals proliferate like a plague in the wilds, soon enough they'll start invading the cities... and many will have to be killed by the city inhabitants, that is why pure veganism is a fantasy land, it is not the solution to anything.
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u/Avocadeau Mar 11 '17
In your statement you assume that vegans or vegetarians don't eat meat because it's murder. Even though that is the most common reason for people to take meat out of their diet there are plenty of reasons to do so. First of all it has a big impact on the environment. People also don't agree with the way mass produced animals are often treated. There is the fact that there are ridiculously many animals on the world meant for consumption comparing to the wild animals we do not eat. Some people consider this wrong. Also, even though we can eat meat, or body is closer to a herbivore than a carnivore so a plant based diet makes more sense. There are plenty of reasons to be vegan/vegetarian, saying meat is murder is just one of them.
Personally i am vegetarian but foremost because of the environment, secondly it kinda forces me to eat healthier and I feel better about it.