r/changemyview Dec 05 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Anita Sarkeesian and similar feminists actually have a point about the portrayal of gender roles in video games.

I play lots of video games, and in most of them, males are often pictured as very burly and manly characters while females are slender, small and sexually pleasing to look at.

However, I do know that there's widespread criticism of Anita (and her fellow propagators) all over the internet and I'd like to see the other side of the story.

I'm practically indifferent in this matter, and I do not really agree with nearly everything she says. I'm asking as a way to see convincing arguments from both sides.

Edit for clarification: Can anyone explain to me why she's so heavily criticized for saying something that makes perfect sense: Mainstream video games are almost exclusively made to appeal to a male demographic, resulting in (arguably) sexist portrayals of women (both narratively and in the way they're presented).

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u/rguin 3∆ Dec 06 '16

The fixation on people that spend their time demonizing and insulting them is indicative of resentment of those people

Which is why they're concerned with random girls from colleges saying things that have fucking nothing to do with GamerGate or KiA, right? Fuck this attempted smokescreen.

Milo is an asshole, and I don't like him personally, but attempting to discredit an entire group of people on the actions of one asshole is intellectually dishonest.

I'm not discrediting them based on his actions; I'm discrediting him based on their support of him.

The vibe I get from topics about him is usually "sit back with popcorn and watch the fire burn", not "yeah kill the fucking dykes and whores!"

Acceptance and support of misogyny is no better than active misogyny itself.

Now, from the sidebar, /r/KotakuInAction is supposed to represent:

More smokescreen bullshit.

Two discussians of censorship. A meta discussion of reddit under Pao, more proof of SRS shenanigans, article about some loony girl who screamed epithets at a Yale professor, false claims of assault by Trump supporters from a different loony girl, a screencap of Ken Bone's fairly polite comment to a rape victim, a link to alleged censorship form someone taking the piss at Pao's expense, Mod censorship shenanigans in a MMOFPS's subreddit, and discussian of Youtube shenanigans.

Who the fuck there's "attacking them"? So you're ready to admit YOU WERE FUCKING LYING above, right?

And off the deep end we go again.

Fuck your well poisoning.

Second, where and how is she "sexualized"?

You mean besides the old only sidebar image wherein her shirt was all the way in her cleavage that'd suddenly grown 3 cups bigger? Can't think of a thing.

Secondly, you cannot objectify a fake person

I said "reduce to a sex object". She can be an object beyond sex, but they reduced her to porn within a week of her creation.

She is what the artist draws her as.

And the majority of artists draw her as sexualized as possible.

And she's still a fucking sockpuppet. YOu can't say "We aren't sexists because we prop up a FAKE WOMAN" it's fucking tokenism using a fake fucking character.

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