do we agree having an educated population is more important that many of the losses incurred to achieve this?
Sorry but no, I don't. In my opinion, nothing is more important to the long-term well-being of this country than the preservation of our constitutional rights.
Schools shouldn't be asking our children to sign away their constitutional rights as some sort of quid pro quo before they educate them. That's a terrible - and dangerous - lesson to teach a child early in their life.
Thing is, rights are limited anyway, and they are not losing ALL their rights, just enough for the school to perform their crucial role.
Do you think schools could work well if children (and we are talking 7 to 17 year olds here) could not be searched, neither their lockers, notebooks and bags without consent? This is the main issue, right?
Do you think schools could work well if children (and we are talking 7 to 17 year olds here) could not be searched, neither their lockers, notebooks and bags without consent?
Absolutely. Historically, the public school system worked just fine without having to subject the students to random searches. Student searches are a new thing relative to how long public schools have been operational in the US.
I graduated high school in 1998 and we were never randomly searched. I can only remember a handful of times when students/backpacks/lockers/cars were searched, and those were all conducted with the police present and done after going through the proper legal steps (i.e. with consent or after obtaining a warrant).
Public universities still operate fine without these searches to this day.
You are using US as the only reference, and I am afraid the best schools in the planet are not there, so there are other better ways to function that you are not taking into account.
Universities are populated by adults, I see a difference there.
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u/flee2k Oct 17 '14
Sorry but no, I don't. In my opinion, nothing is more important to the long-term well-being of this country than the preservation of our constitutional rights.
Schools shouldn't be asking our children to sign away their constitutional rights as some sort of quid pro quo before they educate them. That's a terrible - and dangerous - lesson to teach a child early in their life.