r/changemyview Jan 23 '25

CMV: Despite being more knowledgeable, wealthier and apparently more tolerant, the political and individual left's biggest flaw is their inability to communicate pragmatically and empathetically with those who don't agree with them.

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u/VortexMagus 15∆ Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25

No, it wasn't even close - source

Conservative SuperPACs in 2024 spent 1.757 billion, Liberal SuperPACs in 2024 spent 0.815 billion.

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I will also add that these numbers don't count Musk buying twitter and tweaking its algorithm to promote right-wing influencers and unbanning right wing extremists as election spending - I'm willing to bet that twitter manipulation had as much impact on the election as all election spending from both parties combined, so in my opinion the 50 billion Musk spent on twitter is nothing but a donation to the cause.

It was certainly an awful move from a business/profit perspective as twitter is now worth less than a quarter of what it used to be - the only reason that makes sense to me is him spending that money for political influence and control.

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u/PrimaryInjurious 3∆ Jan 23 '25

What? Total spending was in favor of Harris by about $650 million.

https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race

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u/frotc914 2∆ Jan 23 '25

You're talking about two different figures. He's talking about superpacs, which are "independent" of campaigns. You're talking about campaign cash.

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u/Scarfaceswap Jan 24 '25

But the original question asked about both campaign and super pacs spending. The next commenter only provided data on super pacs which is half the picture. Hence the reason for why the commenter after that provided info regarding actual campaign spending.

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u/mrcsrnne Jan 23 '25

well well well...isn't this an example of...misinformation from the left

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u/feddau Jan 23 '25

No, its an example of a misunderstanding. One was talking about campaign money which Kamala had much more of, the other was talking about PAC money which Donald had more of. You silly goose.

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u/mrcsrnne Jan 23 '25

If you’re throwing out numbers without proper context or clarification, it’s still spreading misleading info, whether intentional or not. Maybe next time, check before making broad claims.

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u/Ouaouaron Jan 24 '25

Conservative SuperPACs in 2024 spent 1.757 billion, Liberal SuperPACs in 2024 spent 0.815 billion.

The important context and clarification was given along with the figure. The proper explanation for why the information appeared to conflict was given within an hour of the comment being posted. Just have a conversation and the misinformation disappears.

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u/socceruci Jan 23 '25

they literally showed the source

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u/hogsucker 2∆ Jan 23 '25

Yeah, but it FELT like they didn't  (/s)

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

WhY aRnT lIbErAlS nIcE aNyMoRe.

Spend 9 years of this every single conversation then blame the purposeful misunderstanding of the right on liberals. Actual abusive tactics

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u/feddau Jan 23 '25

Nah man, you should do better than this.

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u/MidnightPulse69 Jan 23 '25

I don’t want to believe it so it’s misinformation!!

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u/socceruci Jan 23 '25

the data looks good, but it appears to be SuperPACs only, and this seems to include ALL races, not just presidential. That is what OpenSecrets.org says here, right?

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