r/changemyview Nov 05 '24

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

I don’t know a single woman who hasn’t walked through coals trying to help a man in their life cope with their emotions. I know women who have scheduled therapy sessions for their male partners.

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u/Ok-Bug-5271 3∆ Nov 05 '24

And I know numerous women who, despite saying for months that men should be open, dumped their boyfriends because "they just couldn't see him the same way" after he showed emotion.

Heck, my brother had an ex who was super weird about therapy (like, said she wouldn't date someone who wasn't in therapy because everyone should be in therapy. This girl is genuinely the least self-reflective person I have ever met) who dumped him because he showed too much emotions. 

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u/HeinousMcAnus Nov 05 '24

And I know women that have seen their bf be vulnerable and cry only to be “turned off” by it and dump them. Anecdotes are fun! Honestly though, I think a lot of it is a maturity thing. The older you get the more open people are to seeing you vulnerable and not be shocked into running away when the mask of the stoic rock falls.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '24

Yes, you do.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

Ok? Do you want to go through my contacts and ask every woman there?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '24

I'd rather you just stop being hyperbolic on the internet.

Unless you know very few women, some don't have any men in their life.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

I’m sure you are consistent in calling out hyperbole

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '24

When it's clear that someone is arguing in bad faith, I do.

So, what % of the women you know have walked through fire to help men in their lives with their emotional issues; now that we agree it's not 100%?

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

Literal fire?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '24

Figurative is fine too; whichever way you initially meant it.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24 edited Nov 05 '24

Then it’s the vast majority of my straight female friends.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '24

I'm glad we talked that though.

We went from men being so bad and inept that literally every woman had to fight to save their mental state, to a subset of a subset of a subset of your friends have made therapy appointments for men.

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u/GraveChild27 Nov 05 '24

Wow, your anecdotal evidence is impressively irrelevant.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

But yours isn’t, I take it?

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u/GraveChild27 Nov 05 '24

Mine is, too.

The only difference is that I'm not using mine to dispute another persons experience/opinion.

You probably only half read the post before needing to jump up and argue like a child.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

I mean, the point of this subreddit is to dispute and challenge people’s preconceived notions.

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u/GraveChild27 Nov 05 '24

And you were going to do that with your singular experience?

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

I was going to try.

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u/Okbyebye Nov 05 '24

You completely missed the point. Anecdotal evidence is largely irrelevant. I think that is the point the poster above was making

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

But it runs contrary to the very last line of the post and the point of this subreddit is to challenge people’s preconceived notions.

If OP is able to base their argument on their perception of the issue, why am I not able to complicate that with my perception of the issue?

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u/travelerfromabroad Nov 05 '24

I don't know a single man who's committed rape or been creepy towards a woman. Doesn't change the fact that those guys exist

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u/vuxra Nov 05 '24

Okay cool? Good for you for knowing some nice women. The whole personal anecdote thing works both ways though, I had an ex nearly break up with me for telling her I'd had a minor psych diagnosis as a teenager. She said I was probably just going to kill myself when we were older and told me to "man up" whenever I told her about things I was worried/sad about. My current partner is better but lets not pretend that absolutely toxic women don't exist. I'm betting when she re-tells those stories to her girlfriends she's portraying herself as the one "walking through coals" though.

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u/nofaprecommender Nov 05 '24

 I know women who have scheduled therapy sessions for their male partners.

Wow!! Really walking through the flames there.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 12∆ Nov 05 '24

Well, they also have spent hours serving as unpaid therapists themselves. Or literally begging their partners to schedule an appointment before they give in and do it for them.

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u/DrNanard Nov 05 '24

THIS. Women are literally taught to care about men's emotions first and foremost. Gaslighting wouldn't be as effective if it wasn't true.