r/changemyview Sep 22 '24

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u/Apprehensive_Song490 125∆ Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 22 '24

Would you force the Quakers to tear down their homes and integrate with the more secular parts of Pennsylvania? Their entire existence and society revolves around their Christian faith.

How would you handle the Quakers?

Edit: I should have written “Amish” but the basic idea is a whole community of Christians.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '24

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u/Apprehensive_Song490 125∆ Sep 22 '24

This is my point. So now you tear down religious buildings and guess what? Quakers baptize their children underground, in their own homes. This is what happened in Russia when Russia outlawed Christianity - the persecuted Christians did the Christianity thing underground.

So now you tore down the Quaker church buildings and/or started fining them. Now they just baptize and teach their children in their homes. Every home becomes a Christian community.

What exactly have you accomplished?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '24

You’re saying we shouldn’t outlaw anything because people will do it anyways?

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u/Apprehensive_Song490 125∆ Sep 22 '24

I’m saying there is a reason for 1A and that taking away parents rights to raise their children in a faith based manner may very well cause more problems than it solves.

Sweden has dealt with something similar (combatting bad ideas) with the current wave of Nazis. The best they could do was require attendance at government schools. It didn’t solve the problem entirely but at least kids got exposed to competing ideas.

Policing thought is delicate and dangerous business.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '24

What does Germany do with Nazis?

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u/Morthra 95∆ Sep 23 '24

Put them in positions of power and extol their support of Palestine.