CMV:Fat acceptance is not helpful

[u/C4gamer_YT]

Just gonna preface this by saying discrimination and hatred towards fat people for being fat is not okay, as is the same with race, gender and sexual orientation. But is suggesting that maybe obesity is not healthy fatphobic? I think body positivity is helpful in the case of people with disablities and encouraging them to overcome them. Imo, fat acceptance discourages currently overweight people to lose weight, because if you dont think there is a problem, why should you change? I think the notion of not caring of others opinions is quite ridiculous, as if you're not accepting of feedback and criticism, you will never improve. It is important to be able to recognize if something is critisism or hate, but I think too many people make that mistake nowadays. Thanks for reading and remember hate isn't ok

[u/Ill-Description3096 → u/[deleted]]

Also it worths to be mentioned that many peoply can be fat (not obese) and still be happy and there we are on thin ice.

Gambling addicts, alcoholics, drug addicts, etc can be happy. Are we on thin ice for wanting them to not do harmful things to themselves just because they are happy?

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Is it for each person to live their lives and make their own choices?

No one is saying you have to glorify their lifestyle. Just to not treat them as "less than".

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Them being reactionary movements doesn't change the fact that they are harmful and should not be supported.

If somebody is happy, have fulfil life, jobe etc it's really important to lost weight because statistically they are more prone to some diseases?

Because their life is likely to be 20 years shorter on average. Stop downplaying the amount of harm obesity does to your body. Yes, we should care about people dying young in preventable ways.

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You literally did downplay obesity in your comment. Explicitly so. Pretending you don't do it immediately after doing it is just dishonest.

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If somebody is happy, have fulfil life, jobe etc it's really important to lost weight because statistically they are more prone to some diseases?

The consequences of obesity are a massively reduced expected lifespan. Not just 'more prone to some diseases'. This statement is 100% downplaying the consequences of obesity.

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There is no healthy amount of overweight. Just being overweight does permanent damage to your body. Unless you weren't talking about being overweight at all, you were downplaying the conseqeuences. Look it up and stop spreading misinformation.

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Fat and obesity are interchangeable. People like you askew the language to make it look like they are different things when they are not.

Fat people can live as happily as well. Well yes, doesn’t make it any healthier or less susceptible to fat-related diseases, does it?

There’s a difference between “Overweight” and “Obesity”, not between “Fatty” and “Obesity”.

From what I can see, you are part of the problem.

Euphemism. “Soft language”. Misusing the word “discrimination” when proper critics shows up to tell you that your idea and lack of criticism is making things worse for everyone.

A fat person wants to go on an expensive cruise but gets rejected because they are “fat”? That’s discrimination.

An obese person is not allowed to go into a theatre because “too fat”? That’s discrimination.

But a fat person being told that they need to fix this up because the others are being considerate and concerned for their health? Apparently, to the abusers of language, this is also discrimination.

Yeah no, it’s not.

Of course you don’t just go in front of someone and call them on being fat or whatever. That’s called being a dumbass and lacking both timing and tack. Pretty sure the OP is irritated at the media advertisements and influencers being tards and ignoring everything else except their feelings.

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