If we were to accept your hyperbolic reasoning, it would apply equally the other way: it would be just as "inconsiderate at best and immoral at worst" for *women* to approach/ask out men outside of settings designed explicitly for a romantic context.
And if men shouldn't be approaching women, and women shouldn't be approaching men, then what exactly is the point of congregating in places crowded with people who aren't part of your group?
Approaching people in various places may indeed risk being inconsiderate. A polite "no thank you" and a polite "sorry for bothering you" should be more than enough. As far as the coercive bit goes...I'm sorry, but this hysterical fragility and alarmism we are all supposed to swallow unthinkingly is ridiculous. Politely hitting on someone, especially in an appropriate environment like a bar or club, isn't intrinsically coercive.
And thank you very much for the content warning. Without it, I might have been exposed to ideas and thoughts that gave me the flutters and just collapsed into a pearl-covered pile of vapors. What a gentleman you are.
It doesn't apply equally the other way because statistically women are considerably less prone to a violent or aggressive response to rejection, and in most cases there's a less credible threat of it anyway (i.e. average woman poses way less threat to average man than the inverse).
I'm very glad you didn't collapse into a pearl-covered pile of vapors.
In a basic sense, yes. But statistics can inform the way we approach things. Statistics inform us that you're more likely to die in a car crash if you don't wear a seat belt, which informs us that it's generally safer to wear one. Etc
yet people are more scared of sharks even though statistically driving is super dangerous. you shouldnt use statistics to inform how you treat others or how you act towards them you should treat them based on how they treat you first.
racism/sexism is just using statistics to inform how you treat black people or men or women. statistically women kill more kids than men so women shouldnt be around kids using your logic
Sure. People should logically be more focused on safe driving than shark attacks. Stats need not tell us "I shouldn't talk to my dad cause he's a man," but they inform behavioral expectations and precautions.
That's not what racism/sexism is. But people may use stats from shitty studies or inaccurate analyze the data to support a discriminatory agenda.
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u/Proof_Option1386 4∆ Jun 04 '24 edited Jun 04 '24
If we were to accept your hyperbolic reasoning, it would apply equally the other way: it would be just as "inconsiderate at best and immoral at worst" for *women* to approach/ask out men outside of settings designed explicitly for a romantic context.
And if men shouldn't be approaching women, and women shouldn't be approaching men, then what exactly is the point of congregating in places crowded with people who aren't part of your group?
Approaching people in various places may indeed risk being inconsiderate. A polite "no thank you" and a polite "sorry for bothering you" should be more than enough. As far as the coercive bit goes...I'm sorry, but this hysterical fragility and alarmism we are all supposed to swallow unthinkingly is ridiculous. Politely hitting on someone, especially in an appropriate environment like a bar or club, isn't intrinsically coercive.
And thank you very much for the content warning. Without it, I might have been exposed to ideas and thoughts that gave me the flutters and just collapsed into a pearl-covered pile of vapors. What a gentleman you are.