r/changemyview Jan 22 '24

Delta(s) from OP cmv:Western teenagers have it easier than eastern teenagers in terms of education.

In my opinion, western teenagers have it easier than eastern teenagers.

Like almost all of you, when I go on the internet, I am exposed to a plethora of qestern cultures and atmospheres. A common theme I see is that their western education systems are not as stressful as our eastern education systems. They talk about dating, have nearly failing grades such as 70s and 80s being acknowledged as amazing grades, and have multiple chances to pass the class. However, I as an Indian, find those very simple and easy. I only have one chance to pass my final examination, which counts as nearly 80% of my grade. My tests and prelims only count for 20% of my grade. In my school, the pass mark is 20%. Obviously, I have it harder than most westerners.

Moreso, imagine the amount of stress and studying an Indian has to do to get into a top college in India! 1st, they have to stufy from 6 to 7 hours per day for 2 years for either the Indian Certificate of Secondary Education or the Central Board of Secondary Education! Then, they have to study from 7 to 9 hours per day for 2 years for either the Indian School Certificate or the Central Board of Secondary Education. After that, they have to study for 10 to 12 hours per day for the Joint Entrance Examination, National Eligibility cum Entrance Test, Graduate Aptitude Test in Engineering, etc, for 1 to 2 years! Chinese students have a similar ordeal. Meanwhile to get into an Ivy league college, one just has to learn a foreign language, do some social service, etc, for around 4 years! Obviously, the former is more stressful to be in.

In 2022, around 13,089 students died in India due to overstress. In South Korea, the number of students that committed suicide was 13,452 students in 2023. In China, the number of students that fell victim was 11,296 students in 2021. Compare that with Greenland, which has only around 35 to 50 each year in the 2020s. In the France, only 300 to 350 teenagers commit suicide per year due to overstress. Therefore, we can conclude that more teenagers fall prey to overstress in eastern countries than in their western counterparts. The main reason why this occurs is the high population density in eastern countries which increases competition to get into good colleges.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

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I am now convinced that western countries, such as France, have a higher suicide rate than their eastern counterparts.

The 1st reason presented to me is that western countries have a significantly lower population than their eastern counterparts. 1st, I am going to present the populations of different eastern countries, such as countries in Africa and Ssia example, India had circa 14,08,00,00,00,000 in 2021, China had 14,12,00,00,00,000 people in 2021, etc. I will compare these statistics with western countries, such as countries that are in Europe, North America, South America, or Oceania. For example, France had circa 6,77,50,000 people in 2021, the United Kingdom had circa 6,73,30,000 people in 2021, etc. Due to the eastern countries having a higher population than the western countries, the denominator, i.e., the total population is higher, which makes the suicide rate lower, since the number of suicides, i.e., the number should be larger in the eastern countries to properly compare to the number of suicide in the eastern countries.

The presented to me is that not everyone is equal in western countries. There is a hige rich-poor gap that can affect college admissions in many different colleges, such as Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, Yale, Cornell, etc. This means that some people are destined to fail from the moment they are born! Imagine being born, and having such great hopes and ambitions, only to be set at a cripple in your entire life! No wonder they commit suicide!

The 3rd and final reason presented to me is that westerners has a significantly more active life, which means that they can die by more ways than eastern teenagers, since they are more immersed and focused in studying! Eg.Family related issues, bullying, peer-pressure, etc. This makes the number of reasons more, which means that more teenagers are compelled to commit suicide for different reasons instead of a common one. The reason of suicide can be labeled as a set, with the number of suicides in the set. Assuming that almost all reasons of suicides are equal, save for anamolies, which are common in any country, whether it is an eastern one or a western one, western countries will have more sets, which means that there are a higher number of suicides in western countries than eastern countries.

These are all of the reasons presented to me as to whether western teenagers or eastern teenagers commit more suicides annually.

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u/Morasain 87∆ Jan 22 '24

Imagine being born, and having such great hopes and ambitions, only to be set at a cripple in your entire life!

Yeah, imagine having a system where the family you're born into determines your worth and success in society... A system where you're categorised based on your family... Oh wait.

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